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FFB report sheet

Discussion in 'RaceRoom Racing Experience' started by Emilio, Oct 20, 2014.

  1. FANTEC CLUBSPORT BMW FFB ok

    4 vote(s)
    7.4%
  2. FANTEC CLUBSPORT BMW Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  3. FANTEC CLUBSPORT BMW FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. FANTEC CLUBSPORT FFB ok

    2 vote(s)
    3.7%
  5. FANTEC CLUBSPORT Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. FANTEC CLUBSPORT FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. FANTEC CSR ELITE RACING FFB ok

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  8. FANTEC CSR ELITE RACING Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  9. FANTEC CSR ELITE RACING FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. FANTEC PORSCHE GT3RS FFB ok

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  11. FANTEC PORSCHE GT3RS Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  12. FANTEC PORSCHE GT3RS FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. LOGITECH CHILLSTREAM FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. LOGITECH CHILLSTREAM Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. LOGITECH CHILLSTREAM FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. LOGITECH FORCE GT FFB ok

    2 vote(s)
    3.7%
  17. LOGITECH FORCE GT Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  18. LOGITECH FORCE GT FFB dead

    2 vote(s)
    3.7%
  19. LOGITECH FORCE PRO FFB ok

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  20. LOGITECH FORCE PRO Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  21. LOGITECH FORCE PRO FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  22. LOGITECH G25 FFB ok

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  23. LOGITECH G25 Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    4 vote(s)
    7.4%
  24. LOGITECH G25 FFB dead

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  25. LOGITECH G27 FFB ok

    5 vote(s)
    9.3%
  26. LOGITECH G27 Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    8 vote(s)
    14.8%
  27. LOGITECH G27 FFB dead

    2 vote(s)
    3.7%
  28. LOGITECH MOMO FFB ok

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  29. LOGITECH MOMO Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  30. LOGITECH MOMO FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  31. THRUSTMASTER FERRARI F430 FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  32. THRUSTMASTER FERRARI F430 Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  33. THRUSTMASTER FERRARI F430 FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  34. THRUSTMASTER GP XID FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  35. THRUSTMASTER GP XID Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  36. THRUSTMASTER GP XID FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  37. THRUSTMASTER GPX FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  38. THRUSTMASTER GPX Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  39. THRUSTMASTER GPX FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  40. THRUSTMASTER RGT FFB PRO FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  41. THRUSTMASTER RGT FFB PRO Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  42. THRUSTMASTER RGT FFB PRO FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  43. THRUSTMASTER T300RS FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  44. THRUSTMASTER T300RS Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  45. THRUSTMASTER T300RS FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  46. THRUSTMASTER T500RS FFB ok

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  47. THRUSTMASTER T500RS Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  48. THRUSTMASTER T500RS FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  49. THRUSTMASTER T-MINI FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  50. THRUSTMASTER T-MINI Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  51. THRUSTMASTER T-MINI FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  52. THRUSTMASTER TX FFB ok

    9 vote(s)
    16.7%
  53. THRUSTMASTER TX Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
  54. THRUSTMASTER TX FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  55. THRUSTMASTER T500 FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  56. THRUSTMASTER T500 Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  57. THRUSTMASTER T501 FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  58. Fanatec CSR FFB ok

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  59. Fantec CSR Center deadzone or "floaty" or else

    3 vote(s)
    5.6%
  60. Fantec CSR FFB dead

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Emilio

    Emilio

    Messages:
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    Ratings:
    +451
    "Short" survey list to provide data on what's the situation with the current FFB.

    FFB ok: the FFB works on the whole wheel. Output signal is consistent and "readable"
    Center deadzone or "floaty" or else: really low or absence of FFB in the central zone of the wheel; few details transmitted or other particular situations that can be identified as anomaly in the FFB
    FFB dead: as said

    Thanks!

    Edit:
    Last entry for TRUSTMASTER T500 refers to the T500 FERRARI F1 model. Also, note that the "T501" is just a numerical sequence error made by excel and still relates to the T500 FERRARI F1 model. Sorry for the mess!

    As @Jay Ekkel pointed out in a post below, please rate your FFB experience just on those tracks that have been updated with the RoadFeel Technology as the "old ones" may give a dull FFB effect.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2014
  2. Kjell Eilertsen

    Kjell Eilertsen

    Messages:
    3,760
    Ratings:
    +1,245
    GT3 FFB ok, had FFB disappear/die twice but was after mucking about in settings and easily fixed resetting FFB with Alt-F.
     
  3. James Cook

    James Cook
    Marcas fan

    Messages:
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    Ratings:
    +369
    My wheel is not in the poll (Fanatec CSR), but I still have issues with a centre FFB deadzone. It's a very small deadzone but there nonetheless. The track surface feels dead in a straight line.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  4. Emilio

    Emilio

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    Sorry about that James! I thought I copied all the default presets in the R3E controller folder... apologies!
     
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  5. James Cook

    James Cook
    Marcas fan

    Messages:
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    +369
    No worries. I've mentioned this before and others seem to be having the same problem too. It could just be a problem with my wheel.
     
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  6. Emilio

    Emilio

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    +451
    I've just added your wheel at the end of the list...! ;)
     
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  7. shardshunt

    shardshunt

    Messages:
    198
    Ratings:
    +43
    I have a "logitech driving force ex" the ffb seems pretty good for a ps2 wheel. no floaty center that you mentioned
    but the only ffb i run is vertical force and shift.
    surprisingly iv been power sliding confidently which is more than can be said for iracing
     
  8. Bryan O'Connor

    Bryan O'Connor

    Messages:
    418
    Ratings:
    +178
    Just dead. Dead, dead, dead.
    :cry:
     
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  9. Blkout

    Blkout

    Messages:
    2,686
    Ratings:
    +570
    This is certainly a cool poll and the first time I've seen one like this.
     
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  10. Emilio

    Emilio

    Messages:
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    Thanks @Blkout
    hopefully it'll be something handy that could help the devs
     
  11. Thomas Friedrich

    Thomas Friedrich

    Messages:
    37
    Ratings:
    +8
    I've got a Fanatec CSR and I think my the FFB is "ok"... "ok" as programmed, but I'm not sure. The force on straights is very weak and the loss of force when the car under-/oversteers is nearly not noticeable. I can only compare it to AC or Forza and there I got a really good feedback from the car, I know what it's gonna do next, how the weight distribution at the moment is, where forces will push it to...
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  12. Peter

    Peter
    who cares Premium

    Messages:
    1,725
    Ratings:
    +666
    THRUSTMASTER T500RS FFB ok
    THRUSTMASTER T500 FFB ok

    What's the difference?
     
  13. Jay Ekkel

    Jay Ekkel
    ... Premium

    Messages:
    464
    Ratings:
    +813
    Nice thread, can i just ask to base your FFB experiences in R3E on the updated tracks that have the roadfeel added, and not on the "old/not yet updated" tracks.

    On the " old" tracks you run a high chance of getting very dull FFB since they don't have the RoadFeel yet.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2014
    • Agree Agree x 3
  14. Emilio

    Emilio

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    Whoops! My apologies...
    That should have been the THRUSTMASTER T500 FERRARI F1...
    Sorry about that, probably excel cut out part of the text when I stringed together all the cells :)
    ... it also messed up with the numbers: look at that THRUSTMASTER T501. LOL
    I'll try to correct it!
    Thanks!
     
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  15. Emilio

    Emilio

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    It appears (and with good reason!) that I can't edit the polls entries once set. So please read below.

    NOTE: Last entry for TRUSTMASTER T500 refers to the T500 FERRARI F1 model. Also, note that the "T501" is just an numerical sequence error from excel and still relates to the T500 FERRARI F1 model. Sorry for the mess!
     
  16. Georg Ortner

    Georg Ortner
    Sector3 Studios Premium Race Ban

    Messages:
    375
    Ratings:
    +550
    Just a reminder:
    Before you vote, make sure that dampers and springs are disabled in your wheel drivers.
    Fanatec users please use the "Off" setting, not 0.

    This makes a huge difference.
     
  17. Jyri Kettunen

    Jyri Kettunen
    Banned

    Messages:
    661
    Ratings:
    +157
    I've noticed that the G27 deadzone problem is bigger with low downforce setups for the cars. Just when you need more steering precision, all feeling is gone in the center.

    Tested heavily at RB Ring with no wheel dampers nor springs.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
  18. Frank Lehmann

    Frank Lehmann

    Messages:
    461
    Ratings:
    +192
    Good hint, Georg. Good hint. :thumbsup:
    Need to try out the difference, because i actually have SPr & dPr set to 0. Switching to OFF now.


    Edit: Nevermind .....i have just checked my settings and i already had dampers & springs set to OFF.:rolleyes:
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2014
  19. gege21

    gege21

    Messages:
    30
    Ratings:
    +1
    For my G25 setup with Leo Bobnar stuff to separate Pedals and Shifter from the Wheel, in Logitech profiler global parameters settings I tick the case for centering spring at 55% value just to minimize the dead center zone. for me all FFB are good now.
     
  20. Sean Lander

    Sean Lander

    Messages:
    102
    Ratings:
    +34
    Would be nice to have a list of cars and tracks that qualify for FFB and Road feel.
    I've been driving the ADAC cars and they all feel very floaty with my BMW Wheel.