Converting a Qually set-up to a Race set-up

[Ross Balfour]

Hey all, wasn't sure whether to post this in the set-up section, (feel free to move it)

I'm not the best at making set-ups, despite playing sims for around 5 years. I've tried my best and can make a half decent qually set-up for most tracks in GT3 cars.
However, no matter what adjustments I make, I cannot for the life of me create a stable race set-up, capable of 20+ lap races without instability. My qually set-ups will grab me pole, but thew instability of the set-up, due to it being as quick as possible over a short burst, means I am constantly making errors while trying to get into a rhythm, simply because the set-up is an animal to control over a long period.

If anyone can drop me some pointers about what adjustments to make to a set-up to make it more stable and suitable for race conditions, it would be much appreciated.

Thanks, Ross.

 

[Qazdar Karim]

The best way is to make a race setup from the begining !

Well i would most likely start by reducing tyres stress i.e softer springs/ARB and dampers !
Higher ride height (due to to the higher fuel load) ! Longer first gears for better traction !

 

[Georg Siebert]

@Ross Balfour
Hi Ross, try the following for a stable race setup (detriments and sideffects are manyfold and not listed; list is in no particular order except first bullet point):

• modify your qualli setup, don't start a new one
• decrease front /rear camber for braking stability
• increase coast differential for braking stability
• reduce rear ARB
• play with first-bound and -rebound to increase grip and grip distibution on smooth /bumpy tracks
• increase rear toe for braking and straight line stability, be careful - toe settings away from zero have grave effects and make you slower
• increase front ARB for high speed corner stability and reliabilty
• turn brake bias to the front for braking stability
• play with Acceleration differential for tweeking under- / oversteer out of tight corners
• don't mess with tyre pressure too much - grip levels, under- or oversteer corrections should be handled chiefly by the suspension settings
• make sure your racing-tyre temperatures are optimal - the corresponding list and effects are in the guide below

For much more info check out my setup guide: link

 

[Ross Balfour]

Thanks for the replies guys, I'll make a few tweaks and let you know what happens!

 

[Ross Balfour]

@Ross Balfour
Hi Ross, try the following for a stable race setup (detriments and sideffects are manyfold and not listed; list is in no particular order except first bullet point):

• modify your qualli setup, don't start a new one
• decrease front /rear camber for braking stability
• increase coast differential for braking stability
• reduce rear ARB
• play with first-bound and -rebound to increase grip and grip distibution on smooth /bumpy tracks
• increase rear toe for braking and straight line stability, be careful - toe settings away from zero have grave effects and make you slower
• increase front ARB for high speed corner stability and reliabilty
• turn brake bias to the front for braking stability
• play with Acceleration differential for tweeking under- / oversteer out of tight corners
• don't mess with tyre pressure too much - grip levels, under- or oversteer corrections should be handled chiefly by the suspension settings
• make sure your racing-tyre temperatures are optimal - the corresponding list and effects are in the guide below

For much more info check out my setup guide: link

Ok after several days of fiddling about in converting set-ups, I've noticed a few positive changes (mainly in ARB tweaks), however my fundamental error occurs after tyres becomes slightly worn, and I break and turn in corners where that is required (Maggots/Becketts for example) and I completely lose the rear and spin under braking... what setting would I adjust to ensure this doesn't occur.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Qazdar Karim]

more diff cost may help, play with rebound settings to control weight transfer !

 

[Georg Siebert]

@Ross Balfour
brake bias mainly
it's very effective
or change your gear down as late as possible, you'll have a shorter braking distance, because of motor braking

 

[Ross Balfour]

Thanks both you guys, the rear rebound made a huge huge difference and now my car feels super stable. Ran a 20lap race tonight and stayed on track within 0.5 of my times the entire way.

Cannot thank yous enough!

 

[JoelGL]

@Ross Balfour
Hi Ross, try the following for a stable race setup (detriments and sideffects are manyfold and not listed; list is in no particular order except first bullet point):

• modify your qualli setup, don't start a new one
• decrease front /rear camber for braking stability
• increase coast differential for braking stability
• reduce rear ARB
• play with first-bound and -rebound to increase grip and grip distibution on smooth /bumpy tracks
• increase rear toe for braking and straight line stability, be careful - toe settings away from zero have grave effects and make you slower
• increase front ARB for high speed corner stability and reliabilty
• turn brake bias to the front for braking stability
• play with Acceleration differential for tweeking under- / oversteer out of tight corners
• don't mess with tyre pressure too much - grip levels, under- or oversteer corrections should be handled chiefly by the suspension settings
• make sure your racing-tyre temperatures are optimal - the corresponding list and effects are in the guide below

For much more info check out my setup guide: link

Thanks for this. Can you please correct the link? Thanks.

 

[Michael Carver]

Give this link a try

http://www.racedepartment.com/threads/assetto-corsa-car-setup-guides.99049/

Thanks for this. Can you please correct the link? Thanks.