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Cheating in Race 07?

Discussion in 'RACE 07 - Official WTCC Game' started by Ben Buitendijk, Mar 22, 2008.

  1. Hi guys,
    I was racing online today at a F3000 server at Zandvoort.

    I started on pole, but when I go to starting grid there was a guy (who was starting on P10) on my P1! Then before the lights went on, he already could rev his engine.

    Was this just a bug in the game? or was this guy cheating?

    It sucks, because I had a stop and go. :(
     
  2. It's just a bug :) There (normally spoken) can't be any cheating in RACE 07, since it uses Steam.
     
  3. I guess it is just a bug, happened to me as well while being on the pole in the Mini Cooper League once.
     
  4. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    I can remember a guy with a very very bad "Karma" cheating in the Min Cooper League :)
     
  5. hahaha yeah! me too :)
     
  6. Robert Wiesenmüller

    Robert Wiesenmüller
    The one and only Premium Member

    If you think cheating is impossible, just look at the Race07 Hotlap Leaderboard :D
     
  7. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    Thats the speedbug caused by bad connection
     
  8. Ah ok, I guess it's the same bug as with the rolling start, that the right lane slows done and loses 4 positions from the left lane?

    Have you thought about any fixes to this in for the league?
    I don't really mind someone starting in front of me, but the stop and go penalty just makes you loose too much time.

    Or do you think SimBin will fix it in time?
     
  9. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    This is bad luck if it strikes you for sure, but we cant solve this for the league of course. But as it looks now it will be standing starts only
     
  10. Neil Tennant

    Neil Tennant
    @ Simberia @Simberia

    What is it that steam has to prevent cheating in Race07?
     
  11. I think that Valve's anti cheat (VAC) software isn't active on RACE07 servers, else there would be a screen when joining a protected server like in CS or CS-Source.
     
  12. Hmm this is a stupid question and its not the right thread, but one day i was in a pro public server and the laptimes on everytrack was extremly good, i with some other guys doing low 1,41 times during race at Valencia, same at Zandvoort we were doing 1,47 times during race. I thought i found supersetup for the Alfa but after this its impossible to do this times again, cant be speedbug becouse it was session after session at this server, anybody else experiensed this?

    Really wish i would be this fast but surly im not, any ideas what this was?
     
  13. If i see someone cheating i will use my moderation power:sign0113:

    :ll:
    :circuitzolder:
     
  14. :sign0152:
     
  15. I've had similar effects of 'tuned' laptimes when I was setting up BMW M3 Challenge dedicated Server in a WinXP VM on a Linux Server using VMWare Server without caring about proper timesync between VMWare host and guest systems.
     
  16. Ahha, thx for the explanation Marc.
     
  17. was on zandvoort the other day and someone from the back of the grid ploughed up the middle hitting every car while waiting for lights to come on. when lights went off we were all on the grass or pushed into the wall - hurling abuse at the guy, who kindly decided to leave after causing the chaos - hence why I appeared here.

    Hope this bug can be fixed soon.
     
  18. Bram

    Bram
    Roaring Pipes Maniacs | #27 Staff Premium Member

    That option is already in the game Skipys! The server admin can decide to mark the option "Prevent false starts" but never use that. It takes away all the tension build up with a start because everybody can throttle at the same time
     
  19. Yeah there is more tension waiting for the lights to turn green and running the risk of a false start :D
    I've recently discovered (mainly due to GTL as the false start rev issue happens in single player unlike Race 07 which holds you there) that mapping a button to the clutch and holding this down allows you to rev without jumping forward, as soon as the lights are green let go of the button ('drop' the clutch) and away you go!

    Andy
     
  20. Thats a feature of the source engine not the ISI engine.