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EU British Touring Car Cup @ Brands Hatch - Thursday 29th October 2015

Discussion in 'rFactor 2 Racing Club & Leagues' started by Daiman Patel, Oct 24, 2015.

Added to Calendar: 29-10-15
  1. Daiman Patel

    Daiman Patel
    RedShift Racing Staff Premium Member

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    Event Details:
    Server:
    RACEDEPARTMENT.COM BTCC
    Track: Brands Hatch
    Car: Honda Civic, Ford Focus, Chevrolet Cruze, Toyota Avensis, BMW 1 Series



    Weather: Dry
    Road condition: Rubber on track were possible
    Tyre wear: Normal
    Fuel use: 1x
    Mechanical failure: Time scaled

    Assists
    Traction control:
    Low
    ABS: None
    Auto-clutch: Allowed

    Race
    Practice:
    19:00 GMT
    Qualifying: 19:15 GMT - 10 minutes [NO Parc Fermé]
    Warm up: 19:25 GMT - 5 minutes
    Race: 19:30 GMT - 30 minutes [standing start]

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    7. David Slute
    8. Tal Segal
    9. Marius Neverauskas
    10. John Souter
    11. Craig Patteson
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  2. Stefan Woudenberg

    Stefan Woudenberg
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    Yes, please! :thumbsup:
     
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  3. Stenne

    Stenne
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    I'm in please :)

    Nice with a track that I'm quite familiar with and where I have a reasonable clue about the racing line, braking points etc :thumbsup:
    The cars are all new to me though so I'm up for some testing next week :unsure:

    Any recommendations on a car to start with that's reasonably stable with default setup? :unsure:
     
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  4. Tero Dahlberg

    Tero Dahlberg
    Ajira/Revolution Racing friendship teams Premium Member

    I think they're all FWD so they're probably quite stable no matter the setup. The only oversteer you'll likely encounter is throttle lift-off oversteer on corner entry and possibly mid-corner. You can affect that quite a bit by just by avoiding fast and/or big throttle lifts.

    I can be more specific once I try some of the cars.
     
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  5. Stefan Woudenberg

    Stefan Woudenberg
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    I hope the server will be up soon. :) Will be my first time with these cars...so need a little practice. :)
     
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  6. Daiman Patel

    Daiman Patel
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    SERVER IS UP!
     
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  7. Stenne

    Stenne
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    Thanks Tero :thumbsup:

    Those kind of driving tips are really valuable for a rookie like me.

    By the way, do you have some basic driving tips on throttle/braking techniques for the RWD GT3 cars. No matter what car or setup I use I often find myself "fighting against the car", especially with understeer. So I guess for me it's not basically a setup issue, but rather my driving technique.

    Greatful for any help :D
     
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  8. Tero Dahlberg

    Tero Dahlberg
    Ajira/Revolution Racing friendship teams Premium Member

    Kind of hard to say anything without having seen how you drive them.
     
  9. Stenne

    Stenne
    Premium Member

    OK, thanks anyway Tero :thumbsup:

    I'll go back and look at the replays of the last GT3 races and see what I can learn :)
     
  10. Gijs van Elderen

    Gijs van Elderen
    Premium Member

    To help you guys (or not :D). I did some laps with default setup (medium tires):

    Toyota: x:xx:356 (lucky lap)
    BMW: x:xx:409 ==> RWD :thumbsup:
    Cruze: x:xx:540
    Focus: x:xx:599
    Civic: x:xx:653 (but i did only 3 laps)

    Default setups are nice. I don't mind this being a fix setup series. But i can't make it Thursday. :unsure:
     
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  11. Matt Horst

    Matt Horst
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    Put me down as a maybe,i will try to get home from work in time.I would prefer open setups if possible,and i don't mind sharing mine if anyone wants it.I'm driving the BMW.:)
     
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  12. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
    TXL Racing Premium Member

    I think locked setups would be fun, but I know the default of the Civic is very oversteery as it has a very hard rear anti-rollbar by default.

    I hope I can make it. Really love this combination.

    Had a great race lots of month ago third race of three starting nearly last (full grid reverse) and went from something like 28th to 1st in 20min. Staying away from the crashes was one of the hardest things :D

     
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  13. Tero Dahlberg

    Tero Dahlberg
    Ajira/Revolution Racing friendship teams Premium Member

    Where did the fixed setup propositioon come from? I seem to have missed that :D
    No kidding! At least the way I drive, I get insane lift-off oversteer on entry in the Civic and Focus with default setup! Only two cars I tried. Unlike the other FWD cars I've driven, rF2 Clio and SCE Touring Cars, these cars seem to have a ton of oversteer "built-in"!

    I tried a lot of "extreme" values to get rid of that behavior, but was never able to make the car understeer on entry :D Though I only did maybe 40 laps in total in the two cars last night.
     
  14. Tero Dahlberg

    Tero Dahlberg
    Ajira/Revolution Racing friendship teams Premium Member

    Oh, sign me up please :)
     
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  15. Kurupt CDN

    Kurupt CDN
    Touring car fanatic Premium Member

    Put me down as a maybe please
    Edit: I am gonna pass on this...love the track but this version has me thrown off....tag when you use the Oulton park track :)
     
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  16. Stefan Woudenberg

    Stefan Woudenberg
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    Really fun combo.:thumbsup: I will be in the hunt using the BMW.:)
     
  17. Tal

    Tal
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  18. Tero Dahlberg

    Tero Dahlberg
    Ajira/Revolution Racing friendship teams Premium Member

    Did some more laps. Also tested the BMW briefly.

    The Civic and Focus are basically the same. But the same settings in the Civic seem to be a tad easier car to drive.

    The BMW is really great imo. In terms of feel/feedback it's up there with URD EGT cars (except the C7 which is worse than the others) for me. And so it's much better than BES, Apex or ISI GT cars. I think it's the tyres more than anything that makes the biggest difference. But just a guess.

    I was a few tenths slower in the BMW though. But the setup is still a bit understeery for me. It's a bit funny that the RWD car in the mod is quite understeery and the FWDs that I tested are way oversteery! One would think it's the other way around.

    Too bad the BMW looks like crap (not the mod, but in IRL too), otherwises it would be an easy choice for me! But I think it's between the Civic and Focus, slightly leaning toward the Civic atm.

    Oh, and front tyre management in the FWDs is going to be a challenge! So the BMW is the safest choice in that respect.

    Attached are setups for BMW, Civic and Focus.
     

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  19. Frederic Schornstein

    Frederic Schornstein
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    Have some stuff to do this evening, so will be unlikely for me to make it, but I still hope I can :)
     
  20. Gijs van Elderen

    Gijs van Elderen
    Premium Member

    And tomorrow? :whistling: