Adding exhaust backfire to outdated car mods

Nico · May 11, 2017

I'm using a bunch of car mods in my game, and some of them weren't updated after recent patches. I would like to know if there is a way of adding back the exhaust flames to cars that use the old system, prior to 1.5 version of the game. I've found out that cars with broken sound can somewhat be fixed by applying them sounds of Kunos cars with the Cars Manager, and I wanted to know if something similar is possible with the exhaust backfire.

If this is not the right section to ask this, I apologize.

Teguh Waluyo · May 11, 2017

Yes its possible. Just use flame texture from different car and reconfig flame.ini i think. Been there done that.

aphidgod · May 11, 2017

Leave flames.ini alone; take a flame_preset.ini from a current car and add it to your data folder. Adjust values in it as necessary.

You'll also need to add the new textures, which are in a subfolder called textures inside the car folder. Take them from whichever car you took the ini from.

(Been there, done that, know what I'm doing.)

Nico · May 11, 2017

How can I get a flame_presets file from a current car? Kunos' official releases have their INI files encrypted -I think so- and most recent car mods also have those files hidden as well.

aphidgod · May 11, 2017

Pretty sure our Jaguar XJ13 has those files exposed. (Available here at RD.)

Nico · May 11, 2017

I don't know, I'm either doing something wrong or the exhaust dummies are wrongly placed on the car mod I'm using, because I still see no flames. I have the Jag, cars like that are a must have for me.

aphidgod · May 11, 2017

Doublecheck your flames.ini and make sure it's set up correctly? There's not much magic in the system - flames sets the location and direction of the flames as it did in the old style, flame_presets sets up the "animation" for the new style.

Nico · May 11, 2017

Problem is, I don't really know how to set up the files correctly.

This is the content of both files that came with the car:

flame_presets.ini

[HEADER]

SIZE_MULT=1

[PRESET_START_0]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.02

SIZE=0.05

TYPE=0

RGB=255,180,15,0.2

[PRESET_START_1]

TRIGGER=1

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.1

SIZE=0.1

TYPE=1

RGB=255,120,20,0.07

[PRESET_START_2]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.08

SIZE=0.07

TYPE=0

RGB=255,120,20,0.08

[PRESET_END_0]

TRIGGER=4

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.02

SIZE=0.06

TYPE=1

RGB=255,190,0,0.1

[PRESET_END_1]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.06

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=1

RGB=255,190,0,0.07

[PRESET_END_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.1

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=2

RGB=255,190,0,0.05

[PRESET_LOOP_0]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.01,0.18

SIZE=0.13

TYPE=1

RGB=128,50,0,0.1

[PRESET_LOOP_1]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.04,0.26

SIZE=0.13

TYPE=1

RGB=128,50,0,0.06

[PRESET_LOOP_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.06,0.35

SIZE=0.15

TYPE=2

RGB=128,50,0,0.05

[PRESET_FLASH_0]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.00

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=0

RGB=255,90,0,0.01

[PRESET_FLASH_1]

TRIGGER=1

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.03

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=0

RGB=255,90,0,0.006

[PRESET_FLASH_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.06

SIZE=0.06

TYPE=1

RGB=255,90,10,0.01

flames.ini

[HEADER]

INTENSITY=30.0

EDIT_MODE=0

EDIT_BIG=1

EDIT_STATE=4

BURN_FUEL_MULT=5

FLASH_THRESHOLD=7

[FLAME_0]

POSITION=0.27,0.206,-2.0

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

LSIZE=0.2

SIZE_MULT=0.9

IS_LEFT=1

GROUP=0

[FLAME_1]

POSITION=-0.27,0.206,-2.0

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

SIZE_MULT=0.9

LSIZE=0.2

IS_LEFT=0

GROUP=0

[FLAME_2]

POSITION=0.31,0.14,-2.1

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

LSIZE=0.2

SIZE_MULT=0.9

IS_LEFT=0
GROUP=1

[FLAME_3]

POSITION=-0.31,0.14,-2.1

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

SIZE_MULT=0.9

LSIZE=0.2

IS_LEFT=1

GROUP=1

I can't really tell if there's a wrong value in there.

EDIT: Found the reason of the problem, oddly the sound.ini file had the backfire adjusted to appear only at a ridiculously high amount of RPM, way above the engine limit. It's sorted out

Brownninja97 · May 12, 2017

You could save a lot of time/hassle and use the auto update tool in content manager.

Nico · May 12, 2017

I just downloaded that, very useful for placing exhaust flames on cars that don't have them.

Cosacc · Jul 14, 2018

do you know the meaning of the presets and flame.ini?
I would like to put the real flame textures on my mod, but the result is horrible..

Brownninja97 · Jul 15, 2018

Cosacc said:
do you know the meaning of the presets and flame.ini?
I would like to put the real flame textures on my mod, but the result is horrible..

Really testing my memory since ive not done this in a year but if I remember correctly flames.ini is for size and placement of the flames, cant remember what the preset was. I'm pretty sure I just copied the files from a kunos car. Make sure to copy the flame textures as well.

Crisspychippes · Apr 22, 2019

Nico said:
I just downloaded that, very useful for placing exhaust flames on cars that don't have them.

how do i download and use this?

grisbar · Feb 22, 2020

Nico said:
Problem is, I don't really know how to set up the files correctly.

This is the content of both files that came with the car:

flame_presets.ini

[HEADER]

SIZE_MULT=1

[PRESET_START_0]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.02

SIZE=0.05

TYPE=0

RGB=255,180,15,0.2

[PRESET_START_1]

TRIGGER=1

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.1

SIZE=0.1

TYPE=1

RGB=255,120,20,0.07

[PRESET_START_2]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.08

SIZE=0.07

TYPE=0

RGB=255,120,20,0.08

[PRESET_END_0]

TRIGGER=4

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.02

SIZE=0.06

TYPE=1

RGB=255,190,0,0.1

[PRESET_END_1]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.06

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=1

RGB=255,190,0,0.07

[PRESET_END_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.1

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=2

RGB=255,190,0,0.05

[PRESET_LOOP_0]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.01,0.18

SIZE=0.13

TYPE=1

RGB=128,50,0,0.1

[PRESET_LOOP_1]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.04,0.26

SIZE=0.13

TYPE=1

RGB=128,50,0,0.06

[PRESET_LOOP_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,-0.06,0.35

SIZE=0.15

TYPE=2

RGB=128,50,0,0.05

[PRESET_FLASH_0]

TRIGGER=2

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.00

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=0

RGB=255,90,0,0.01

[PRESET_FLASH_1]

TRIGGER=1

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.03

SIZE=0.04

TYPE=0

RGB=255,90,0,0.006

[PRESET_FLASH_2]

TRIGGER=0

OFFSET=0.0,0.0,0.06

SIZE=0.06

TYPE=1

RGB=255,90,10,0.01

flames.ini

[HEADER]

INTENSITY=30.0

EDIT_MODE=0

EDIT_BIG=1

EDIT_STATE=4

BURN_FUEL_MULT=5

FLASH_THRESHOLD=7

[FLAME_0]

POSITION=0.27,0.206,-2.0

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

LSIZE=0.2

SIZE_MULT=0.9

IS_LEFT=1

GROUP=0

[FLAME_1]

POSITION=-0.27,0.206,-2.0

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

SIZE_MULT=0.9

LSIZE=0.2

IS_LEFT=0

GROUP=0

[FLAME_2]

POSITION=0.31,0.14,-2.1

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

LSIZE=0.2

SIZE_MULT=0.9

IS_LEFT=0
GROUP=1

[FLAME_3]

POSITION=-0.31,0.14,-2.1

DIRECTION=0,0,-1

VSIZE_START=0.05

VSIZE_END=0.025

SIZE_MULT=0.9

LSIZE=0.2

IS_LEFT=1

GROUP=1

I can't really tell if there's a wrong value in there.

EDIT: Found the reason of the problem, oddly the sound.ini file had the backfire adjusted to appear only at a ridiculously high amount of RPM, way above the engine limit. It's sorted out

MAAAN youre my hero thnx

carguylukas · Aug 30, 2021

I recently got a BMW E30 2JZ-GTE Swapped for drifting from some random turkish modding website and in the vid it was a literal flame thrower but when i try it wont even spit a tiny flame, it dosent have a data file i could change either and the flame textures are there. Could anybody help me? This is the video i got it from its in the desc from a turkish website you have to make an account first. But it comes with a translator. --->

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EricoTDI · Jan 25, 2022

You need to downgrade your installed CSP to 1.7.3 to have fire spitting dragon back. For unknown reasons the amount of flames has been greatly reduced in never versions.