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ACE Qualifying Cuts Rounds #1-8

Discussion in 'Formula SimRacing' started by Kris Cobb, Sep 15, 2014.

  1. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    Qualifying checks from Bahrain to Germany.

    Bahrain
    Clean

    Malaysia
    Clean

    China
    Clean

    San Marino
    Q1 Cuts:
    Thomas Satherly
    Danny van der Niet

    Canada
    Clean

    United Kingdom
    Q1 Cuts:
    Marek Godek
    Gennaro Celiento
    Giordano Valeriano

    Q2 Cuts:
    Marco Conti - lag
    Alex Diaz
    Norbert Leitner - very off pace

    Germany
    Q1 Cuts:
    Patrik Holzmann
    Jiri Toman (Served at USA-Indy)
    Danny van der Niet

    Q2 Cuts:
    Patrik Holzmann
    Thomas Satherly - lag

    Back of Grid Penalties (not including possible Monza penalties)
    Round 10:
    Thomas Satherly
    Patrik Holzmann
    Danny van der Niet
    Marek Godek
    Gennaro Celiento
    Giordano Valeriano
    Alex Diaz


    Round 11:
    Danny van der Niet
    Patrik Holzmann
     

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    Last edited: Sep 23, 2014
  2. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    More pictures attached.
     

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    Last edited: Sep 22, 2014
  3. And what do you want to say with it? We knew that Jiri cut there, and also post that v/d Niet, Satherly and Holzmann (Q1+2) cutted too. So where is the problem?

    Anyway, Jiri served his penalty for Germany already in Indy, so he shouldnt be penalized again. :thumbsup:
     
  4. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    Fixed sorry about that.
     
  5. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    I think it is self explanatory.
     
  6. James Sadler

    James Sadler
    GhostSpeed Racing Manager Premium Member

    Kris why has it took you 5 rounds to post cuts for Imola with Thomas? Did you even check the replays for Thomas after Imola? Clearly not. But my question is why has it took you this long to issue penalties to drivers? Why wasn't this done after each round? Also Patrik served his BOG at Indy as well as Jiri. By the way focus on Ace and let Carlos focus on Pro. Get yours sorted out before commenting on his. At least he doesn't have to go over mistakes he made 5 rounds ago.
     
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  7. How it would be James, if you do it? And fight every round with people complaining about everything?
    Really, give me one reason why you`re not doing the job of race director?
     
  8. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    Just trying to fix what I did wrong.

    Patrik served a penalty for 4x Official Warning for cutting, not for cutting during qualifying.

    I am also a PRO team manager (Avid Chronic Racing and sister team OSR), so that is what the discussion was for.
     
  9. Not for me, and I kindly repeat my question.
     
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  10. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    I think it is silly for the FSR VP to support the idea that 1 team can check for cuts. I wanted to verify, I did but not in time for the last GP.
     
  11. James Sadler

    James Sadler
    GhostSpeed Racing Manager Premium Member

    Ok fair enough Kris. But my point is why couldn't this have been done earlier? Thats whats frustrating.
     
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  12. Ignoring the fact that you are also a WC/Ace/Pro team owner (so it's that silly as well?) in one GP they found more cuts than you in the entire season.
     
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  13. Patrik made 5Laps in Q1 and 4 Laps were not cut and every lap was good enough for Q2. I think we should delete that bog because it's getting ridiculous. I see a reason for a bog if you make a Laptime which brings you into Q2 with a cut. But no reason if he makes 5 laps in a row and only 1 lap had a slight cut which was unfortunately his fastest but his other 4 also would bring him into Q2. There is no Logic behind that. The Penalty is hillarious no matter how you look at it.
     
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  14. We wanted to help you, not to check every Q by ourselves, ach..

    @James Sadler Its cos he probably thought that Q cuts should be protested first.

    @Christof Schgör Jiri had also cut only in his fastest lap and the others was good enough for Q2. But he got a penalty anyway. So thats another reason why Patrick should get a penalty too.
     
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  15. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    I guess that would be easy since I wasn't looking.

    Just trying to right the wrong. Not sure what the argument is here now.

    You guys wanted it fixed then complain when I attempt to.
     
  16. That's how it is. There is logic behind it and that is rules. And rules have to be applied at all times. I got my penalty for cutting which I deserved and I served it. No matter if I did other laps good enough for Q2 or not. Patrik logically has to serve his penalties too then.
     
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  17. Kris Cobb

    Kris Cobb
    Avid Chronic Racing | Team Principal

    While I understand that, and its not your responsibility. But to force people to take penalties when the RD has not verified to me seems wrong.

    Exactly. But no excuses I take responsibility.
     
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2014
  18. You started the "argument" tagging me and Martin saying that we cannot rely on 1 team checking the cuts(?), when in fact thanks to them we discovered that you didn't check any qualy cut in all the season. And of course they were right in the GP they checked (Hockenheim), so that comment was quite unfortunate I'm afraid.
     
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  19. He is free to let his best laptime delete after Q1 I think. But not sure. I saw this sometimes in Pro