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ABS - Having difficulty

Discussion in 'F1 2010 - The Game' started by Rich Maskell, Aug 24, 2011.

  1. Rich Maskell

    Rich Maskell

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    What am I doing wrong? When I turn ABS off I really struggle with some corners. What am I doing wrong?

    Breaking too hard? not early enough? too early?

    The steering just locks up and I go straight on into the gravel trap.

    cheers for any help.
     
  2. Darren Bentley

    Darren Bentley

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    when you brake dont turn much then when you feel comfy take your foot off the brake and simply turn as much as you need
     
  3. Rich Maskell

    Rich Maskell

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    So turning whilst breaking = bad?
     
  4. Darren Bentley

    Darren Bentley

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    depends on how much your turning, your break pressure, and how hard you breaking
     
  5. Oli Peacock

    Oli Peacock
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    the more u turn the less u break, in motorsport its called trail-breaking
     
  6. Rich Maskell

    Rich Maskell

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    Thanks. I guess although it's a pain, this will really help my driving technique.

    sounds obvious but it makes sense in my mind!
     
  7. Darren Bentley

    Darren Bentley

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    btw if you want to race in the league you need to be a licensed member which is FREE TO DO
     
  8. Rich Maskell

    Rich Maskell

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    I'm waiting on my application, otherwise I'd be in the 9.30pm at Spa!
     
  9. Paul Lock

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    You can get away with some braking while turning at some tracks, in some conditions etc - so many variables you can only really pick up through a lot of practice.

    To be on the safe side, try and do all your braking before you turn. Master the corners and then try pushing it. You will feel much better making the corners albeit a little slower speed, if you take a good line and get a good exit, which will only happen if you get the braking point and entry correct. This will encourage you to push it a bit until you find the limits of what works for you.

    Also, you could try initially braking hard and gradually releasing the brake as you make the turn, feeling the way through. Obviously the FFB is pap and doesnt really help you anticipate much. This is why getting to know the track is imperative in F1 if you want to do well.

    Lastly, you may need to adjust your setup. If you are a heavy braker, maybe a lighter pressure would be better for you. I would read David's guide -

    http://www.racedepartment.com/f1-2010-game/60388-f1-2010-guide-full-david-oreilly.html

    Its the shiz.
     
  10. Lenard Schaeffler

    Lenard Schaeffler

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    what I do, and I could be terribly wrong but it works for me 1) your statement is correct braking and turning, cannot happen at the same time. I downshift, to bleed out most of my speed and use the brakes for fine tuning, but either way, whether you brake then downshift, or downshift then brake you have to break the age old video game tradition of going into a corner way too hot and braking/sliding your way out, when a turn comes, you need to have already done everything in anticipation of that turn, from setting up your positioning on your preferred race line, to bleeding out any speed you dont want.

    what you describe sounds a lot like what my brother, my brother in law and I kept doing when we started playing the game, we were seasoned racers from consoles mostly and it sounds to me like you are approaching on the inside of the corner, slamming on the brakes and trying to fishtail it (i could be wrong) instead cutting straight across, its a tactic that works in a lot of games on a lot of systems and has created terrible habits at least for us three. I have caught up a little quicker then my partners in crime (the setup is mine, unfair advantage) but I keep pushing them, the slower you look, the faster you are going, my current goal is to not scrub the tires, the less of it I hear the better.

    Whoa I ramble too much, short verson, slowdown before the corner, and the second you are far enough into the corner to see a straight shot out, start to accelerate out. please if I am off base, someone correct me
     
  11. Skellignite

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    What will help a lot is switching the audio to 'software', the rapture3d setting causes input lag on all controls, trust me I know what I'm doing.
     
  12. Lenard Schaeffler

    Lenard Schaeffler

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    Why did that sound like a Jedi mind trick ala Obi Wan, *Wave of hand* trust me I know what I'm doing
     
  13. Skellignite

    Skellignite
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    OMG, you never watched Sledgehammer?

     
  14. Lenard Schaeffler

    Lenard Schaeffler

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    from the looks of it I was between 3 and 6 when that show was on :cool:
     
  15. Rich Maskell

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    I find it impossible. I simply cannot play the game without ABS and traction on.
     
  16. Lenard Schaeffler

    Lenard Schaeffler

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    cannot is an ugly word, you can. its a PITA, but once you do it you feel much better about accomplishing it. just take ABS off, and forget about it. with TC, drop it to medium, get used to it, then take it all the way off. I cant talk too much I am having a similar battle with the driving line, some tracks I am fine, but others I just cant seem to do away with it
     
  17. Chris Jenkins

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    Brake in a straight line.
    Start your down-shifting halfway through the braking zone.
    Off the brakes and hold the bite-point on the throttle through the corner (hear revs but not accelerating).
    Power on when you can straighten the wheel.