1978: Patrick Depailler fearlessly drives in wet weather.

[Hampus Andersson]

Will it dance? Yes
Is it the quickest way? No

One of the best dancers in the field,

 

[William Levesque]

Sure, that's not what I call dancing, that's just losing grip and saving it, it's not a way to go around a corner like it was.

Also, it mostly happens in the wet, and at low speed so the downforce doesn't snap the car around.

And by the way, MSC doesn't have Ferrari licking his boots anymore, and he is probably struggling because he can't use his beloved driving aids anymore.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

No it´s not. That´s pure and simple power steering. Which can be heard by Hamilton´s throttle inputs by keeping the rear end at an angle and you also have proof in the massive tire marks Koba landed as he blew past the camera.

Doesn´t matter, Schumacher did not go to Ferrari on pure luck or by driving aids. If you took the time and look through some of his telemetry data you would find that he is indeed a very special driver with a very special driving style.

Do you know what he´s known for? Steering the car with the rear end while cornering i.e exactly like the boys in the old days.

It also seems while looking at your TV that the cars go on rails but the reality is far from it. The cars are moving around quite a bit.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

Watch,

 

[JakkeFin]

My favorite: Eddie Cheever at detroit wet

 

[Victor Ivanov]

I think the main difference is that back in those days you could see the driving styles of different drivers on the track with your eyes. Nowadays you can see this only if you have the telemetry data and those drifts (Hamilton in Malaysia) are caused by mistakes or wet track. I believe all of you have watched the Senna pole lap in Adelaide with the Lotus. The car is dancing like hell and he takes some corner like a rally driver. Today this is just impossible cause it's slow and the amount of downforce will never allow you to dance the car in fast corners.

 

[David O'Reilly]

Now Tazio Nuvolari that was a driver!

 

[Hampus Andersson]

There´s only one rainmaster. Hamilton and Schumacher are very good but not really at the level of Senna.

 

[William Levesque]

What about Gilles ?

 

[James Maskell]

Foot down, sideways. Foot down, sideways. rinse and repeat haha.

 

[Gaëtan Legastelois]

There´s only one rainmaster.

LOL, what statement

 

[Karl Dubois]

we also forgot the german tallent stefan bellof, what he did in a bad tyrrell in monaco 84 whas really great.
the poor guy died in spa @ eau rouge

 

[David Jundt]

True. Although the Tyrrell were underweight most of the season I heard.

 

[Adam Eggbeer]

They were until the final pitstop at each race when they filled up the water tanks for the water injection system with lead shot and water. They were found to have used unsecured ballast along with illegal holes in the bottom of the car. They were also the only non-turbo car that year.

 

[David Jundt]

Well, that hurt without turbo.

But didn't such a pit stop take too long?

 

[Adam Eggbeer]

Not really, it was pumped in with significant pressure to make it quick, but some Led Shot escaped when they were leaving the pitlane.

 

[David Chardar]

In modern racing, with a track this wet, there'd be safety cars and red flags for 4 hours.

OH WAIT.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

In modern racing, with a track this wet, there'd be safety cars and red flags for 4 hours.

OH WAIT.

Again, we do not have monsoon tires anymore so it´s physically impossible for a modern F1 car to not aquaplane on the water.

 

[Ole Marius Myrvold]

The tyres themselves are more than capable to take away the water we have seen bringing out red flags many many times. However, because of the parc-fermè rules, and most races are forcasted to be dry (or changable) there are much to loose to make an actualy wet-setup. If the parc-fermè had been cancelled totally when it is lots of rain, you probably wouldn't see too much problems. But with the cars set up to run as low as possible in dry. It don't take much water to get under the car, and make the plank to a boat, and when that happens, you can use as much monsoon tyres you want, it will still aquaplane.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

They aren´t because like you said, the cars aqua plane. Monsoon tires however are specifically designed to raise the car with more then 10mm and continue races that were not possible to continue in with regular tires.

They are designed to do exactly that thing. Suzuka 2010 would have been ideal for a monsoon tire.