Project CARS is very good SIM

Then what did you mean? Your complaint is that SMS is "fiddling with the builds every week". What other meaning is anyone supposed to draw from that comment, except that you don't want things to change?

Is Project CARS the PC version of Xbox Forza and PS Gran Turismo

I guess that's the goal for SMS now. However I question that they'll achieve that level of quality GT5 and Forza have to offer since both titles have come a long way and can look back to more then one successful installment upon which their gameplay has more or less improved. Pcars has no (successful) predecessors.

Of course it has. It had two earlier incarnations. Shift 1 and Shift 2.

Hey I like Shift 1 and 2.
Your tone suggests that this makes me a bad person

Marcel said 'successful' predecessors.

A lot of folks wouldn't consider Shift and Shift 2 as successes, lol.

I think this is completely different to the Shift series... They focus on road cars and customizing them, whilst pCARS focuses on actual racing cars... It kinda reminds me of Race Driver GRID, only with better physics and less Blur

Or simply its (more or less direct) predecessor Race Driver, especially Race Driver 3, which is a bit more focussed on professional motorsports then GRID and very good track selection and amount GRID focussed a bit more on action which I'm not sure is planned here (just if not, someone better tell the AIs)

I just hope Ian doesn't go too far the other way into easy arcade vs hard arcade.

Has nobody said the obvious here? They're aiming to have an accessible sim; one with the accessibility of GT5 and Forza4 but with the sim physics and feel of iRacing, GTR2, etc. This should shock no one as that's what Assetto Corsa is aiming to do as well with its limited UI and easy to play mentality (judging by Kunos' past games and recent articles).

Read the threads about FFB and Physics on the forum and you'll know SMS isn't messing around. Physics are hard to judge without communicative FFB and that's been lacking overall as they tinker with everything. That being said, there are FFB Tweaker files (Game Controller sub-forum) that are extremely good overall.

i see that some peaople say only rfactor is good..race 07 ...is shit for them ..so evrything is subject..for me also race 07 ...for now...in future i hope PC...

we will se in 2013...march or april....

Hmm i dont know whay we compare here pcars with other games..i mean its not finish...we only can say what is good for now or bad..without comaparation..for me race 07 is still numero uno..someone will say rfactor is one..i dont like it..0 feel...but that we can compare..project what will be finish i hope in next 6 months...we cant...for now in my opinion they go in right way to be a great sim (great team from almost all simbin sim)..every weeks (last month was every day because MP) is better and better with new builds so you can see people work something.....tyers have only few paramters for now..maybe 17% of what will have ..i mean all game is finish 15%....they say it will be true simulation ...one for guys with console one with pc..i am not defending i just say it have a chance...not compare to other games..

Finished or not but its available to "public" so in my oppinion its fair to compare it to other sims. As far as I know Iracing is still adjusting their physics and tires. Should we call it alpha or beta because of that so it would not be fair to compare it to other sims ?.

Developers can promise you the moon but there no quarantee that they can fullfill their promise.
Only way to see if you like it is to try it.
You never know that future brings.....

As a comparison iRacing already has it's core physics working and all the features implemented, whilst pCARS still hasn't a big part of it's components deployed. The proper Carcass model is still underway, tyre temperatures, wear and flatspotting are yet to be done, and most importantly it's not yet really balanced at all. All they've currently got is a sneak peek of the new patch model. It absolutely should be reviewed, but it's not representative of what the actual game will be.

It's like saying you should already compare the career mode of the game against other games when it's not even in the game yet.

Also, congrats on winning the Thrusmaster Pad, Dubravko!

Thanks!
But... i only drive simulation i dont use pad at all so i tell guys that my give someone who drive on keyboard or someone who really need pad. If i get wheel that be diffrent story )..i replace my old G25.....

Welcome.
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I don't have rf1, and I'm glad I don't, as rf2 is a joke atm, and it's probably just as bad in rf1 with more work to set up cars/FFB etc.

Re-Pcars, I couldn't be bothered to dl the latest build.
I'm not hopeful about pcars becoming a sim, it's moreso whether it can become a decent racing game.

LOL, why talk such nonsense?