KIA coming to iRacing

[Conny Naslund]

270 BHP, frontwheel Kia Optima.
Used in World Challenge Racing.

 

[Conny Naslund]

Just read an article about the car and they were stating 400-500 bhp!
So my misstake.Seems they are allowed to tune it....a wee bit

Oh my, how do they get that power to stick with a front wheel drive.
Torque steer anyone....

 

[William Levesque]

It is 274hp.... GTS class

(If it's 400+, it's entirely fictional and bullshit )

 

[Conny Naslund]

News from iRacing.

"The 2013 Season 2 build is coming during Week 13! Headlining the new build is the cool new 350 bhp, front wheel drive KIA Optima"

 

[Hampus Andersson]

I thought it was gonna be free honestly. Never thought the majority would pay for that thing.

 

[Kevin Ascher]

Now we're only missing a nice Ford Ka to race it.

 

[Eckhart von Glan]

I thought it was gonna be free honestly. Never thought the majority would pay for that thing.

not to worry, iRacing seems to be played by guys with too much money to spend. I am surprised at the number of chaps owning 100% when at least 50% of that will hardly ever be used.

 

[Bakkster]

I thought it was gonna be free honestly. Never thought the majority would pay for that thing.

On the other hand, it's good that it's not going to be forced into a Rookie fixed setup series. Now World Challenge is the first multi-class series with all its actual classes represented.

Majority doesn't need to buy it, just enough to have participation.

 

[Hampus Andersson]

On the other hand, it's good that it's not going to be forced into a Rookie fixed setup series.

Had it been a regular road car like the Mazda with some trick bits on i would have agreed.
Instead we get setups made by monkeys for a full season and most will probably run it in leagues where they can exploit the cars potential.

They have such great priorities at iRacing. Thank god for Assetto Corsa. Proper cars.

 

[Bakkster]

Had it been a regular road car like the Mazda with some trick bits on i would have agreed.
Instead we get setups made by monkeys for a full season and most will probably run it in leagues where they can exploit the cars potential.

Are you saying that's going to happen to the Kia with its open setup MC series?

 

[Hampus Andersson]

sorry read it as they were going to do a closed setup rookie series.

Either way, probably the last car in the universe i would have chosen to put in a sim.
The least they could do is make it free like the Caddy, a car 1% asked for.

 

[Bakkster]

The least they could do is make it free like the Caddy, a car 1% asked for.

Kia and Caddy paid for it to be developed at the front of the queue, but only Caddy paid to make it base content. Of course, that came with it being stuck in rookie with fixed setups. I much prefer to just pay for it and get a solid open setup series out of it.Hell, I would have likely bought the Jetta years ago if it had been open setup.

And if you don't like the Kia, just enjoy that the car is the reason the Caddy will have a proper series next season

 

[Hampus Andersson]

I don´t care much for the Caddy, it´s still broken beyond anything else.
Center point physics comes to mind. It´s like when the Ford GT first arrived only times 10.

 

[William Levesque]

I don´t care much for the Caddy, it´s still broken beyond anything else.
Center point physics comes to mind. It´s like when the Ford GT first arrived only times 10.

Agreed, at first I thought setups and when I looked at the numbers, ermmmmm, couldn't figure out why it reacted like that !

Hopefully it gets fixed when the Kia comes out, which btw will apparently have 350hp, 76 more than on the official Pirelli World Challenge booklet

EDIT: It appears to be the stock car's HP, but I cannot find the real figure, if there is one, lol.

 

[Stefan Mizzi]

Yeah, I can't drive the Caddy either. Hopefully, the KIA drives better and would be able to enjoy this years subscription (which I haven't yet!).

I don't care if it's free or not, what matters is that I like it's physics/feeling etc. I enjoy FWD so I'm all fingers crossed for this one!

 

[Stefan Mizzi]

Just seen the change log...

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3186272.page#6970046

and I'm really curious if the below will have some positive difference...

New Tire Model

- The way we model tire carcass yaw motion relative to the rim has been improved. This has helped responsiveness.

- The NTM tires (and real world tires) are very dependent on temperature which greatly affects the properties of rubber. We've always just used 3 slices of tire (inside, middle, outside) to track temperature since way back in the day, but this is not really sufficient for the NTM, since it is so much more critical to get correct temperature than in the OTM or Papyrus tire models. The tire code now computes temperatures for many elements across the surface. Now tires in the sim compute anywhere from 7-9 slices for our narrower tires, to up to 20 slices for the wide tires some of the cars have. The result is that as the tire contact patch is moving left and right across the tire surface the temperatures used by the grip code are more correct and produce a better, more progressive tire temperature effect. Also, the 3 temperatures we record for visual display are now more accurate too (although there is still work to be done there). This change applies to all NTM tires.

 

[Niel Hekkens]

I think it will improve a little bit, but it's not NTMv5 yet! That will be released together with the Lotus 49.

 

[Bakkster]

Hopefully it gets fixed when the Kia comes out, which btw will apparently have 350hp, 76 more than on the official Pirelli World Challenge booklet

EDIT: It appears to be the stock car's HP, but I cannot find the real figure, if there is one, lol.

The GTS class has cars between 400 and 500 HP. Hard to pin it down more accurately since the restrictors can change.
http://www.automotive.com/features/car-technology/why-kia-goes-racing/viewall.html

I think it will improve a little bit, but it's not NTMv5 yet! That will be released together with the Lotus 49.

If anything, I expect the sidewall stuff to help with tankslappers while the extra temperature slices will help with extreme setups and cambers. Will see soon just how much of a difference it makes.

 

[Stefan Mizzi]

Update is being deployed

Would be interested to hear the initial feelings of those who would have tried the KIA

 

[Hampus Andersson]

 

[Stefan Mizzi]

OK, seems not many have tried the KIA yet. So, since it's a FWD (my favorites) and I don't want to give up on iRacing, I bought it and tried it.

In a nut shell, I am very happy And finally I will be back to iRacing to take part in the KIA championship.

Some tips if you try it:

1. Default setup is crap! It makes a huge difference if you add some rear wing and play with toe/camber etc. I will upload a set tonight.

2. The car has ABS and it rattles the wheel a lot! I had to go to app.ini and decrease the FFB Smooth value. The rattles went away when adjusting the right FFB value in game too.

With the right setup and FFB, the car does feel great and if you like FFB you will enjoy this addition.

Cheers