FM4 Classic Touring Cars Cup S1

[Tom Moreno]

Welcome to the Classic Touring Cars European Cup, this is for licensed members only and will follow the official RD rules.

Cars:
1991 BMW M3
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1992 Lancia Delta Integrale EVO
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
1988 BMW M5
1990 Chevrolet Camaro I-ROC
1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1990 Lotus Carlton
1992 Toyota Supra

Assists:
TCS (Traction control system): Banned
ABS (Anti-lock braking): Banned
STM (Stability Management): Banned
Racing/brake line: Allowed
Gearbox: Auto, Manual, Manual with Clutch: Allowed

Upgrades: Up to A600
Setup: Allowed

Drivers: 16 Max allowed

Info

• Full damage will be utilised.
• Each race event will be 2 heats, with 10 laps each heat.
• Heat 1 Normal grid (random).
• Heat 2 reverse grid.
• It will auto load Heat 2.
• Events should be no longer than 50 minutes for both heats.
• Timeout will be set to 2 minutes after the first person has crossed the line.
• Teams will be allowed. (It will be the case of picking another driver to make the team up and I will do the points after the race).
• Events will be on three consecutive Monday nights and start at 8.30pm UK time.
• Lobby will open at 8.15pm (UK Time) to allow for any connection issues.
• This will be open to all Licensed Members.
• If you are not connected by the race start time, you will not be able to race. If you get disconnected during the race, you will miss the race, unless everyone disconnects.

Points
1st 10
2nd 8
3rd 6
4th 5
5th 4
6th 3
7th 2
8th 1
Fastest lap 1

Race Calendar
5th December
Nurburgring Grand Prix Full
2 Heats, 10 laps each
8.30pm (UK Time)

12th December
Circuit de Catalunya Grand Prix
2 Heats, 10 laps each
8.30pm (UK Time)

19th December
Silverstone Grand Prix
2 Heats, 10 laps each
8.30pm (UK Time)

How do I signup?
Please use the following template
Name on RD:
Gamertag:
Race Colours: (Pick 2 colours, a 3rd colour is optional) (See signed up colours first)
Race Number: (No higher than 99) (See signed up and reserved numbers first)
Team Name: (This is only applicable if you have a team)
Team Drivers: (This is only applicable if you have a team)

If you have a team, each driver will need to post.
There is a maximum of 2 drivers per team.

Reserved Numbers
Ryan Daniels/5
Ash Kendall/11
Daz Webb/19
Tom Moreno/21
Dan Smith/23
Stefan Liversidge/32
Alex Townsend/34
Garry Pullen/39
Peter Cosgrave/42
Karl Raper/57
Wayne Thomas/63
Paulo Ribeiro/66
Steve Freeman/69
Chris Bell/76
Dan Lathan/88
Krzysztof Lipczynski/99
Joe Lund – Number: 3
Paul Armstrong – Number: 04
Jack Evans – Number: 6
Dylan Hember – Number: 7
Derek McCord – Number: 14
Andrew Skinner – Number: 22
Matt Smaith – Number: 45

 

[Mr Chip]

Im in - looking forward to some more close racing.

 

[Steve Freeman]

Welcome Mark, this series has been great fun with great racin,
Im poor at setting up cars too, i use the Fanatec csr set up with an openwheeler seat. What wheel you use?

 

[Dan Smith]

I'm in too. Currently getting 2:00.7xx

Dan Smith / MysticViibrosis

 

[Wayne Thomas]

I'm in too. Currently getting 2:00.7xx

Dan Smith / MysticViibrosis

(wtf!!!!) You driving the bloodhound or what!

 

[Tom Moreno]

I'm in too. Currently getting 2:00.7xx

Dan Smith / MysticViibrosis

Mate, You're insane. I think the lot of us should chip in to get you a pair of lead pants for Christmas to slow you down a bit. Or maybe new rule- Dan has to play while hanging upside down!

 

[Chris Bell]

Im stuck in the low 2.02s where i will find 2s ill never know

 

[Dan Smith]

Im stuck in the low 2.02s where i will find 2s ill never know

Becketts and Maggots are all about being smooth and careful. I enter the first part in 4th, shift down to 3rd for the second part and hold a steady line in 3rd for the final part out onto the Hangar Straight. Stowe is taken in 3rd.

One trick I use is to only use about 2/3 of 2nd gear when exiting the corner on a bend. Shifting to 3rd a bit sooner gives much more traction especially out of Abbey.

The final section is the trickiest for me but I do this:

3rd gear for the chicane before going under the bridge, stay in 3rd until the second to last corner and drop to 2nd. Stay in 2nd for tiny straight before last "proper" corner Luffield. Short shift into 3rd for best traction onto the Pit Straight.

 

[Wayne Thomas]

At least I have heard of the corners you mention. That's a start ...

 

[Chris Bell]

will try that tonight in practice before the race

 

[Dan Smith]

I have made a video of a lap round Silverstone but YouTube is telling me it'll take 3 hours to upload!

 

[Wayne Thomas]

Great series Tom. Thanks for setting this one up. Thanks Garry for hosting.

 

[Wayne Thomas]

Way off pace for this one. Last minute tuning tweaks did nothing to improve times.
R1 started at back and pretty much stayed there !

R2 mid grid start but trying to avoid the crunching at the first few corners I dropped back several places. Late in race had a battle with Tom for 6th, could have probably taken him if I'd been braver, we seemed to have similar pace. Then the white noise hit! Really put me off on key corners, almost lost car completely. Dropped back and then was having a ding-dong with Daz. He did well, overtook me, I battled to get close but no good. Last lap, on last big right hander Daz was way ahead but ran off track, caught him up, managed to overtake and gain place back.

I am going to put my Lotus on club car share. If anyone fancies a dabble on the 3 we tracks we raced for this tourney let me know how you get on time wise. I know I am not the fastest but the car wasn't competitive the way I set it up / raced it. Ho-hum.

 

[Paulo Ribeiro]

Errmmm... guess what.... finished both races in 5th yep, the very same place as always, at several series and events.

You guys can call me 'HI5, 5th Avenue, Give me 5, 5th Element... whatever...

Both races were very fun and hard, always with someone behind and/or in front. Always busy defending and attacking.
Nice scrapps with Tom, Steve and a 190 which driver's name I forgot (sorry mate).
But last 2 laps from race 2 must be see from the replay. An epic battle with Jim, although very fair and clean.
In fact those 2 laps could impress easely others epic battles like: John Cleland vs David Leslie, James Thompson vs Matt Neal,
Anthony Reid vs Jason Plato, just refering a few BTCC races I had the pleasure to see live on MOTORSTV since the late 90's.

Anyway, more two great races with/against great drivers. Thank you all.

Congrats to winners and podium and to all finishers.

Cheers

 

[Paulo Ribeiro]

It was fantastic, thank you Tom and to all that had provide us lots of fun.
Now can we ban Dan? He is so fast that he only should be allowed to race online with skate, even so he might get
a few podiums...

Congrats Dan and to the tied points Tom and Steve podium. As for me, I will fired all my pit crew and hire
a new one.

 

[Dan Smith]

Race 1: Tried to avoid the madness at the start and dropped down to 8th, then managed to get a few place back before I rolled the car again at Bridge. Garry the Saviour was on hand, helping me to my wheels again (Cheers again Garry!!), but the race was done on my part because everyone was miles ahead.

Race 2: Started from 3rd, got into 2nd behind Dylan. Had a great battle with him for a couple of laps then I got a better run out of Copse and went for the overtake into the first part of Becketts, just pulling it off without contact, although we both ran wide. Was OK for a few more laps until the noise started putting me right off (I was so close to pulling over until the noise stoppped) this allowed to Karl and Chris to close the gap, thus putting me under a bit more pressure. Once the noise had gone it was OK and I started to pull away slightly.

 

[Dan Smith]

Thanks Tom for setting up such a fun series. Can't wait for the next lot of races!!!

 

[Chris Bell]

Great series, very close racing, had a go in the DTMs last night, that is some step up from what we are used to :s

 

[Dan Smith]

I am going to put my Lotus on club car share. If anyone fancies a dabble on the 3 we tracks we raced for this tourney let me know how you get on time wise. I know I am not the fastest but the car wasn't competitive the way I set it up / raced it. Ho-hum.

Nurburgring - 2:11.563, a little oversteery out of 2nd gear but otherwise it's a nice balance through the faster corners and isn't easy to roll. The gearing seems ok

Catalunya - 2:02.683, oversteery again, mainly Turn 3, but again the overall handling isn't too bad. You could try to shorten the gear ratio because your not getting everything out of 5th gear down the straight. This may also improve acceleration throughout the lap.

Silverstone - 2:04.483, the handling is spot on, I really enjoyed driving it. The gears are far too long, ideally you need to make use of 5th gear because you have 6 gears. I know last night we we're talking about which gear we used for top speed, I apologize if I confused you but we we're only running with 5 gears. You should be able to gain a bit more speed tweaking this.

Please don't think I'm being over critical, it's just an honest observation. Hope it helps

 

[Mr Chip]

Did anyone save replay of race 2 by any chance?

 

[Wayne Thomas]

More than glad you took out time to try the car Dan. Appreciate the comments.