Stock Car Extreme Setups

[Bram Hengeveld]

My setup for Curitiba

 

[Dariusz Swiderski]

When you see some simracers in a brake zone they often use more than 15% but also in a 'on/off/on/off' type of way for some reason. If you have to use throttle to balance the car, your brake bias is too far rearward.

Brake bias got nothing to do with this, weight transfer has.

I've seen a lot of recent real telemetry data from GP2, GP3 and F3 and there is no use of brake and throttle at the same time in any of those laps. One of these drivers is now in F1, one is a F3 champion, its just not done in real racing by guys much better than we'll ever be. Even if there is an exception to the rule, that doesn't mean its 'better' or that you should try that in simracing. I believe you have a better chance of becoming a better driver by keeping it simple.

Well, the 7 times F1 world champion may disagree with you there. The reason you don't see much of throttle use in open wheelers is due to fact that they have very little suspension movement = the effect is much weaker. I suggest looking up at tin tops telemetry.
There is some more info on the subject of simultaneous use of brake and throttle :
http://www.driftingstreet.com/braking-technique-left-foot.html

What may have worked for Schumi is unlikely to work for you.. ;-)

It does work for me and countless other sim-racers i know

BTW: i,m not a Schumi fan but i do respect him, he isn't 7 times world champion by accident, is he?

 

[Chris Shepherd]

Lol.

 

[Niels_at_home]

Brake bias got nothing to do with this, weight transfer has.



Well, the 7 times F1 world champion may disagree with you there. The reason you don't see much of throttle use in open wheelers is due to fact that they have very little suspension movement = the effect is much weaker. I suggest looking up at tin tops telemetry.
There is some more info on the subject of simultaneous use of brake and throttle :
http://www.driftingstreet.com/braking-technique-left-foot.html



It does work for me and countless other sim-racers i know

BTW: i,m not a Schumi fan but i do respect him, he isn't 7 times world champion by accident, is he?

I really don't see what suspension movement or weight transfer has to do with it. With a rear wheel drive car, adding throttle while braking moves the effective brake bias forward.

In Simracing this has often been taken to an extreme. In GPL you could set the brake bias to something silly like 48% front, meaning the front tires where physically unable to lock up almost. Then to stop the rears from locking you add throttle. That is quite silly!

It seems to have remained the 'secret style' in one form or another in simracing since then but I don't think you can do a statistically relevant research on the effects. I feel it is mostly a habbit making simracers feel they are faster and better but they could be just as fast operating one pedal at a time. That said, there are some weird handling cars in sims so perhaps its required in some of them, I don't know!

I do know its not really done in single seater racing today which is enough reason not to do it in single seaters in sims. The Schumi article was interesting because it shows that left foot braking is 'faster' and better than right foot braking in a F1 car. It also showed that Schumi is a better driver than his teammate. I'm sure though that you could have a Mika Hakinnen telemetry trace of an equally fast lap driven without use of throttle and brake together.

 

[Jordi Casademunt]

Thanks for the setup, seems to work well with the 2012 update.

 

[Nigel Morrison]

Thanks for the set. Worth about 0.8 for me over the default. If only I can get that beeping chicane right!

 

[Alberto Rafael]

boa tarde amigos, sou novo no jogo stock car e novo aqui tbm, gostaria de saber de vcs como faço pra instalar esses alteraçoes no meu jogo?

fico muito grato pela ajuda.

alberto.

 

[Ramon van Rijn]

My set of tonights event. Got me P2 in qualify and race.

 

[Matej Lakota]

Great setup! With some small tweaks I immediatetly improved my previous best time on Jerez. Tnx, Ramon

 

[Frank]

I changed the setup quite a bit, its a lot more stable now and faster now.

 

[Paul Lock]

Thanks, I was having troubles, but managing high 19's with your setup, gonna tweak it and see how it goes!

Edit - reduced power and coast to minimums and running high 18's with this setup now.

 

[Frank]

Awesome, going to try that out.

 

[Frank]

Slightly lower back wing brings me in mid 18s

 

[Frank]

Pole setup on club race.

Its a hard to drive setup but it is really fast. Enjoy

 

[jeanribas]

Hey Keith!

Thanks for sharing your setup. It's really stiff, but that works well on transitions. Maybe I need to reduce a little bit the brake pressures, because I'm locking it a lot..

Couldn't be lower than 51s with your set, but I guess there is room to improve it. =D

Cya!

Velho, não consigo baixar de 56.5.... qual a mágica? to jogando com o controle do xbox... os carros da IA parecem bem mais rápidos... to usando o setup do keith pawson...

 

[jeanribas]

Hey Keith!

Thanks for sharing your setup. It's really stiff, but that works well on transitions. Maybe I need to reduce a little bit the brake pressures, because I'm locking it a lot..

Couldn't be lower than 51s with your set, but I guess there is room to improve it. =D

Cya!

Velho, não consigo baixar de 56.5.... qual a mágica? to jogando com o controle do xbox... os carros da IA parecem bem mais rápidos... to usando o setup do keith pawson...

 

[Tommy Nilsson]

53.272 with the long train

 

[Tom]

[medio]137[/medio]

Thanks, your setup really did the trick for me. My very first laps with the Formula Classic, got it down to 1:20.348 in the end.

 

[André Azevedo]

Did a 45.2 with the default setup except front wing at 25 and it wasn't a good second half of the lap... in Test mode, does it make any difference the times is test mode?

 

[Campinas]

boa tarde amigos, sou novo no jogo stock car e novo aqui tbm, gostaria de saber de vcs como faço pra instalar esses alteraçoes no meu jogo?

fico muito grato pela ajuda.

alberto.

Pasta raiz onde vc instalou o game - exemplo - C: GSC2012>UserData>"seu nome (perfil) no jogo">Settings - só colar dentro de uma das pasta do circuito desejado. Depois dentro do jogo acessa garagem 1 o setup vai estar a sua esquerda. seleciona e clica em carregar. Boa pilotagem.

 

[Tommy Nilsson]

I am guessing it is me infront of you since i lock up my tires everywere.
1.10.76 is pb on this track for me.