Renault R24

Renault R24 1.4

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Not sure why you're arguing with people who are pointing out flaws in your work, but you should listen to your critics if you want this car to ever be as good as it could be.

Physics wise it's ok, that's about the nicest thing I could say. It drives like the old Formula GT in Gran Turismo 5. Feels strange and unrealistic. I've found a lot of F1 mods with unrealistic physics though, so you're not alone there.

As for your insistence that it has 900hp: I checked, and it has 1034hp. These engines had close to 900hp at the crank, so this figure is off by some margin.

The sound is also not good, but this is another area where a lot of F1 mods are lacking, so it's not really a big deal.

Lastly the model: This is good, the only disparity with the real R24 is the sidepods on your model are a bit mis-shaped, with the upper shoulder being a bit too flat, and the bulge mid way down the side not being there on the real thing. But other than that relatively small detail, I'd say the model is pretty good. Good job on that if you did it yourself, and the people saying it's not sized correctly are wrong, it has all the correct dimensions when I checked.

Overall I'm giving you 3 stars for the good work on the model, and for the fact that with some work on physics, and if you listen to the critics, this could be an excellent F1 mod worthy of 5 stars. I'll gladly give you 5 stars if you address the issues.

Keep the good work up, and take this critique for what it is: a critique. I'm not being a "hater", or needlessly bashing your mod, I'm offering criticism of what isn't right, and praising the work you've done well.
Really nice mod, I just love it!
So challenging to drive, you've gotta fight with it pretty much. Prefer it more than Kunos's F1 Ferrari in terms of handling.
Would you later add Jacques Villeneuve's helmet skin to the pack? I'd rellay appreciate it. :)
Thanks for your great effort anyways!!!
Cyneo
Cyneo
Thank you very much, i will see if i have time for the helmet
Thanks a lot!
Cyneo
Cyneo
thanks :)
you are the best! i was waiting for a guy to make a renault skin for f2004 and no one did it and you have made the car itself! thank you
Cyneo
Cyneo
Thank you very much :)
Really oversized
The proportions are all wrong
Physics are really weird, those cars had much more downforce..
Cyneo
Cyneo
the car is scale 1/1 with the right proportion (https://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/878/renault-r24)
the car has the same downforce that ferrari f2004 of kunos (check out with the aerodynamics app of kunos in the game)
the physics is fine, it will be not perfect but is stable, for some as the colours, some likes and some dislikes
Muy buen coche pero mira lo que me paso jejeje https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b73d2nvYWQ0&feature=youtu.be
Cyneo
Cyneo
si, lo se, es por falta de carga en el aleron delantero, ya lo tengo arreglado para la beta 0.5, con la proxima version ira bien el coche manejado por el juego, no te preocupes
3D model looks fine, but its engine sounds bad, all the tyres works like they've made of stone, brake discs and calipers(?) need to replaced, FFB strength is too poor
Keep up the good work!
Cyneo
Cyneo
the sound is copied from the original car. IMO The tyres look like rubber not stone. Brake disk and calipers have not textures yet. FFB is configurated in the game and the program of the steering wheel, not in the car.
Nice
Cyneo
Cyneo
thank you :)
impressive and best mode ever!! :D mucho gracias!!
and Fernando Alonso best F1 driver too!!!
The same here:
dont load a setup, is not validated, cant start, how to fix ?
The model is still not precise at all and needs tons of work or even rework. Looking at the first picture you post, the side pod. You need more pictures and see how the car really looks. For example the engine cover's edge is actually completely straight, it is the small fin that make it look curved. And what's more, there's only the end part of the diffuser. For others I want to say just look at these pics
https://i.imgur.com/p3rbH8P.png
https://i.imgur.com/yBNQ44g.png
we see the outside when looking into the air intake and
https://i.imgur.com/RPNLG94.png
https://i.imgur.com/Wtb9jvu.png
As for the physics... You told another guy the physics is fine, but it's true the physics is VERY weird. In old versions the downforce of the front is so small that the car even takes off at Eau Rouge according to a video in YouTube. I don't know if it is really corrected but in 0.9 I'm sure the downforce still has some problems (maybe the downforce of the diffusor is too low as we know most downforce come from the diffusor, looking into the files, the diffusor's coefficient of lift of your R24 is much to smaller than the F2004's diffusor...which makes sense) as a result the rear axle's grip is very low and that gives the car much oversteer, which make it very very unstable. In addition, the engine is almost 15% stronger than the F2004... If F2004 has really 865 bhp as Kunos described in ui.json, your R24 has in fact over 1000 bhp rather than "900 bhp" as you described. (I may remind you the Power.lut is not engine torque, it is torque on wheels if the transmission ratio is 1:1 so power loss on drivetrain must be considered)

As a result I'm sorry I cannot give any better than 1 STAR. We know this is your first mod. But I give stars only according to the mod's quality.
Cyneo
Cyneo
First, you compare the Renault R25 with the Renault R24 in this pictures :
https://i.imgur.com/yBNQ44g.png
https://i.imgur.com/p3rbH8P.png

This is the R24 :
https://imgur.com/2zQTjlR
and this is the R24B (but not is exactly the R24) :
https://imgur.com/qgI8e53

Second, aerodynamics is fine, everything is always improved in all aspects, but it is well tuned, the problems that may have been in other previous versions are corrected, this can be seen in the game's aerodynamics app.

Third, the power and the torque is correct, the car has 900 BHP, not 1000 BHP (ASR Ferrari F2004 has 950 BHP and Kunos Ferrari F2004 has less power than the real F2004)
see the power and the torque of my car (the file "power.lut" is "RPM" and "TORQUE" (in N.m), example : "18500/346" what is 899 BHP):
https://imgur.com/hLq2yQX
And what do you mean that the "power.lut" is not the engine's torque, are the parameters of SPEED_SENSITIVITY, RELAXATION_LENGTH and ROLLING_RESISTANCE in the file "tyres.ini", which affect the speed of the wheels and those parameters are well adjusted, with which the car really has the 900 BHP

Fourth, the Physics for you is "VERY weird" but for others not, is only your opinion as other opinion of other person...

Fifth, I see that you discredit the car with unjustified opinions or erroneous information on your part, and do not value the work and dedication in months to make the car or the improvements that I am doing in it, well, everyone is free to say, but I do not force anyone to comment on the car or to download and play with it, I simply made the car for all those who like and want to enjoy it and I have done it with love and do not charge money to download the car . If you do not like the car, it's very simple, do not play with it and forget it and if you think it's all wrong, it's also simple, do it yourself and we'll see how your car looks and then we can comment on it ...
car won't load... disapointed.... :-(
great, thank you very much!
G.O.A.T
This mod is pure quality. Nice job. Great details. Handling is good as it is. Only 2 downsides: - Sound its a bit poor, and in cocpit view the steerint wheel is not that detailed. Very good mod i love it.
Premium
Another brilliant F1 car mod; my only issue is that the game thinks this car's sound is from the Tatuus, and can cause issues when playing with other cars that have a similar issue.
better but not so much. the ffb is poor
Cyneo
Cyneo
set the FFB in the game or in the steering wheel program, in the car is not posible.
A nice start!
I've made a fast comparison between Kunos' Ferrari F2004 and your R24 at Barcelona, like a winter test. :)
With the F2004, I got a 1:23,7 without any settings. The car was driveable, fast, precise, smooth.
Out of the box, your R24 was seriously unbalanced on the antiroll bars setting. It took one turn to understand it. So, I've rebalanced the bars and I got a 1:25. The car was SO MUCH DRIVEABLE! With further settings I got a 1:22,9.
You're doing a good job.
Let's review the sounds. It's a bit harsh, low on details. You have to make it a little more "palatable". :)
Cyneo
Cyneo
thank you very much :)
I'm trying to adjust all the best i can, i'm on it :)
one of the Best open wheeler. fantastic driving, many thanks
Hey mate.I wanted to let you know that you have done amazing job with the car and it si an amazing mod for an incompeted mod but i wanted to give you some tips about how to do this car even better. Firstly the car feels much more lighter than the ferrari f1 of 2004 as a result slidding a lot without traction controll and spinning many times at the entrance of the corner and much more often on the exits.Also cause of the lightweight and all this power with a perfect almost lap at spa i clocked 1:41.9 when with ferari f1 2004 my best lap is 1:43.7.And last when you are braking it almost never blocks the tyres cause again of the lightweight.I hope that you will read my tips and then if you can fix it .
(Thx for reading it)
Cyneo
Cyneo
Thank you for your testing :)
Now i have no time for to fix it but in a early future i will try to do it.

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