F1 2012 The Game Review

 

Almost a year ago F1 2011 has been unleashed upon the sim racing community and people were both furious because it wasn’t a proper simulation like rFactor and excited because it was still a great game to play and exactly what many people wanted. Before starting to read this review (which is based on the official review version provided by CodeMasters, PC version) everyone should remember that this isn’t a hardcore sim racing game – it’s not completely arcade either, tho.

After all, F1 2011 The Game was a massive improvement compared to F1 2010 The Game and CodeMasters tried hard, once again, to cater all kinds of players this year. Of course, nothing is ever without fault but one can definitely feel how much work and heart Steve Hood, Paul Jeal and their team put into the 2012 edition. Also, 2012 marks the first year a demo of Formula 1 The Game has been made available.

The first and most obvious change is the main menu, which is way more flashy than before. The McLaren above is pretty much the perfect car to show it off but I’ve also seen both the Ferrari and Red Bull  – so it’s either random or depends on which car you were using the last time you played. Apart from it being flashy it’s also quicker and more intuitive than in the previous instalment.

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(Expert difficulty, default setup)

The amount of information available – both for tracks and drivers – is pretty much the same as in 2011 but you can also see an example lap (in dry conditions) around each track. This might come in handy for people starting with 2012 but the general comments are often down to a specific setup – for example, it won’t always work out if you start breaking at the 100m board just before turn 1 in Malaysia. It’s definitely a great idea and will help people to prepare themselves if they’ve never been out on a particular track.

Once you’ve picked a team & track and arrive in the pits it really feels like 2011 – which is a good thing because people have gotten used to it and the pit menus worked pretty well. One thing that was really annoying tho was that the same button was bound to 2 functions, as you can see in the shot above as well. Obviously it could only trigger one function and that was, in the pits, sadly the “Show Standings” function.

So every time I opened the menu pictured below I was kinda stuck in it, had to get up and hit the ESC key on my keyboard. Most people have their keyboards in reach but I don’t and despite this being not a biggie it was still annoying. However, this is surely something CodeMasters is going to fix pretty soon and it’s not a biggie for most people. This will hopefully be history in the release version anyway.

Going to the track is easy as always and driving out didn’t change, you can still see the mechanics get your car off the jacks and drive out as usual. One thing that everyone will (or should) immediately notice is that the sound improved a lot. The engines sound a lot more like in real-life this year and, in addition, the way you shift has changed as well. You can’t downshift like a maniac anymore, which is a bit sad because this is indeed possible in real-life (click the link to see Robert Kubica in Spa). If you’d do what Robert Kubica demonstrated in said video, your car will send smoke signals to the drivers behind you and ultimately stop working rather quickly.

Apart from that it doesn’t feel that different from 2011. It’s a lot harder to keep up with the AI but that’s surely also down to not having custom setups readily available. Most of the 2011 setups will not work in 2012 – I tried. Also, the AI owned me for trying. All setup options are still the same and, FINALLY, proper Parc fermé rules have been added. This means you can’t change your setup after you’ve driven out in qualifying and before the race. Choosing wisely is really important this year – unless you want to cheat and simply restart the session.

It’s also possible to change the fuel load before the race (distance of 25% or greater) and decide to either have a bigger fuel reserve and be more flexible or carrying less fuel but a lighter car to begin with. Once on the track almost nothing has changed with the exception that you’ll be able to change break balance on the fly – front, neutral, rear. This is pretty similar to how changing the wing settings back in F1 2010 The Game worked. Getting feedback from the car is pretty difficult again, the tracks feel really flat and it’s hardly possible to feel bumps even with FFB set to 100%. It’s not bad but there’s certainly better FFB available in other games.

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(Expert difficulty, default setup)

A refreshing and nice addition is the Young Driver Test. Following a series of tests your performance is being graded and the better you perform the more teams want to give you a contract. After all it’s pretty straight forward and you can restart tests if you want to. Whilst it’s not groundbreaking it’s still more fun and entertaining than simply picking a team like you did in F1 2010 / F1 2011.

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A rather unpopular change is the removal of playing a whole season in Grand Prix mode – you’re being forced to play Career mode in order to play through a whole season. To make up for this CodeMasters added an all new Champions Mode, containing scenarios that require you to defend your position, catch your team mate etc. It’s pretty fun and challenging but you need to cope with the default setups in all of them since you start in the middle of the race, mostly only a few laps before the chequered flag. There’s also a new Season Challenge mode which is basically the same as career mode but with only 6-10 races.

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(Champions Mode, Medium difficulty)

The AI finally learned how to drive as well and it’s way easier to avoid them now, them slowing down doesn’t necessarily mean they’ll crash into you. Also, they won’t hesitate to block you or swerve over the track (see what Vettel did in the first video?) if it’s necessary to keep their position. There’s not much to say about the physics and how they work: it’s almost the same as in 2012 but one can definitely feel that it’s more immersive. It’s still not on the rFactor 2 or iRacing level but that’s most certainly not was CodeMasters was aiming for.

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(Professional difficulty, default wet setup)

Driving those cars is fun, not too hard and obviously pretty immersive. Although the physics look like 2011 it’s a way better feeling and “being in the car” is something that will give you the feeling of driving a real Formula 1 car. Also, in 2012 you can really notice the KERS boost. Whilst it was more or less only a sound effect in last years’ game it feels like a rocket boost now.

Multiplayer wasn’t available yet since I played a review version of the game and RaceNet was thus still offline. According to previous announcements F1 2012 The Game is still using P2P connections when playing online, exactly like it’s predecessors. There’s no dedicated server available, a pretty disappointing nuisance factor in the middle of all these wonderful features and improvements that is F1 2012 The Game.

Luckily there’s one more good thing we can talk about: this years’ game has immensely improved when it comes to it’s performance on PC. I’ve played the game on my pretty extreme system (i7 3770, GTX680, 16GB RAM, SSD) and never had any performance issues, obviously. However, the benchmark result was pretty surprising: 106 FPS on average (2012) vs. 96 FPS on average (2011) on Ultra settings.

Seeing that the graphics in 2012 are definitely better that’s an achievement CodeMasters can be proud of. The only thing not being great when it comes to the graphics is the lack of visual quality in Singapore. The reflections and colors are looking dull and inanimate. This is something that might get fixed in the release version.

The conclusion couldn’t be more simple: F1 2012 The Game is worth it’s money and definitely a massive improvement compared to the 2010 & 2011 edition. As with every game in this series it’s pretty obvious that it’s not specifically aimed at the hardcore sim racing community and buying this game thinking it will be like rFactor2 with an official Formula 1 license will ultimately lead to a disappointing experience.

 

THE GOOD

  • Graphics
  • AI improvements
  • Young Drivers Test
  • Champions Mode

THE BAD

  • Buttons bound twice
  • Lighting issues in Singapore
  • SymProjects displays not working yet (which is down to an update of SimDash!)
  • Shifting appears to be a bit off

THE UGLY

  • Save games are still being corrupted from time to time
  • Invisible walls are still there

The bottom line is that if you like games that won’t require you to spin around for hours before being able to put a clean lap in, this is definitely a fun and lasting game for you!

Update 20/09/2012

The following issues / changes are still active in the release version:

  • Free Practice 2 & 3 have been removed. Players are limited to a single, 60 minute, practice session.
  • Tyre wear doesn’t scale, tyres will always last as if you’d run a 100% race.
  • Buttons are bound twice, preventing you from using in-game functions. I.e. unable to open driver statistics because the same button is bound to going back to the last menu.
  • Some players can’t use a resolution greater than 800×600.

For all of these and more screenshots visit our dedicated thread right here! For more on F1 2012 The Game in general visit our popular F1 2012 The Game forums with the latest discussions and also the place for modding resources, custom club and league races, setups and much more.

 
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37 Comments

  1. Test Driver says:

    Thanks for all the new videos Tom. Now going to read the review.

  2. Graham Laing says:

    Good review Tom, thanks for doing it. :)

    Bullet point 1 under "The Ugly", is such a disappointment, though not a surprise after my experience with the demo.

    Year 3, save bug …… :thumbsdown:

  3. mertol says:

    Codemasters are retarded. If you want to make a f1 game accessible to a lot of people you make good driving assists, you don’t create an ugly combination of arcade and sim. Arcade F1 games will never be acceptable.

  4. Roy Sutton says:

    Interesting, just one question. How was the steering for you?

    If you haven’t tried the Demo i suggest trying it and comparing it to that, this was you can say if it felt better or not. Looking at the video’s, your imput for the wheel seemed to be more smoother, however that could be down to settings you have uesed.

  5. Tom Endres says:


    Roy Sutton

    Interesting, just one question. How was the steering for you?

    If you haven’t tried the Demo i suggest trying it and comparing it to that, this was you can say if it felt better or not. Looking at the video’s, your imput for the wheel seemed to be more smoother, however that could be down to settings you have uesed.

    I didn’t play the demo yet, for that exact reason. I’m currently downloading the demo from Steam and give it a shot asap. I’ve been using the very same settings I had in F1 2011 – yet, I might add 1-2% steering deadzone because the car always moved a bit to the left or right on long straights, even tho I didn’t move the wheel at all.

  6. Really good review :thumbsup: , but does Codemastes has what it takes to make a good sim racing F1 title for the community

  7. Paul Nadon says:

    I purchased F1 2011 and the steering on my G27 was so bad. It would spike to the right and stay there.(undrivable) I read all forums and after spending weeks trying to fix it, i gave up, 50$ down the drain.(many had problems with steering)I tried F1 2012 demo to see if now the steering worked and now I get no feel of the road, I get no FFB on corners, and spiking for no reason.(wheel works fine on all other games) After three years of making this game you would think that they would give proper wheel support. Told myself then I would never buy another CodeMasters game, and unfortunately that still stands. Shame on you CodeMasters.

  8. Roy Sutton says:


    Paul Nadon

    I purchased F1 2011 and the steering on my G27 was so bad. It would spike to the right and stay there.(undrivable) I read all forums and after spending weeks trying to fix it, i gave up, 50$ down the drain.(many had problems with steering)I tried F1 2012 demo to see if now the steering worked and now I get no feel of the road, I get no FFB on corners, and spiking for no reason.(wheel works fine on all other games) After three years of making this game you would think that they would give proper wheel support. Told myself then I would never buy another CodeMasters game, and unfortunately that still stands. Shame on you CodeMasters.

    I never had steering problems with 2010 or 2011 (apart from my wheel playing up towards the end of the TNC league), but i managed to fix that with help from ROB. I don’t mind the steering in 2012, its just very twitchy down the straights which i don’t like, but i can honestly say that CM have done a good job in 2010 and 2011 with all the wheels they supported in both F1 titles.

    @ Tom
    thanks bud, i hope the twitchness is not so bad in the version you played (compared to the demo) and that its even better in the final version of 2012.

  9. Ian Dancy says:

    "Save games are still being corrupted from time to time"

    No Sale. Had this in 2010 and 2011 not risking it again. If I felt they supported and fixed these F1 game maybe things would be different.

  10. Why still save game is a Problem for CMR :mad:
    I really wish they fix before or After releasing the game

  11. GamerMuscle says:

    "The bottom line is that if you like games that won’t require you to spin around for hours before being able to put a clean lap in"

    I find that if the game is realistic and I know the track then I can drive near to the limit within maybe 3 laps.

    With an arcade game regardless of how well you know a track you can never drive at the limit due to the holes in the physics causing unpredictable car movements , forcing you to always drive under the limit and just memorise inputs.

    But sure its easer to drive under the limit in a game like F1 2010-11-12 if you are new and have not mastered the basics of steering and throttle control.

  12. Paul Nadon says:


    Roy Sutton
    Paul Nadon

    I purchased F1 2011 and the steering on my G27 was so bad. It would spike to the right and stay there.(undrivable) I read all forums and after spending weeks trying to fix it, i gave up, 50$ down the drain.(many had problems with steering)I tried F1 2012 demo to see if now the steering worked and now I get no feel of the road, I get no FFB on corners, and spiking for no reason.(wheel works fine on all other games) After three years of making this game you would think that they would give proper wheel support. Told myself then I would never buy another CodeMasters game, and unfortunately that still stands. Shame on you CodeMasters.

    I never had steering problems with 2010 or 2011 (apart from my wheel playing up towards the end of the TNC league), but i managed to fix that with help from ROB. I don’t mind the steering in 2012, its just very twitchy down the straights which i don’t like, but i can honestly say that CM have done a good job in 2010 and 2011 with all the wheels they supported in both F1 titles.

    @ Tom
    thanks bud, i hope the twitchness is not so bad in the version you played (compared to the demo) and that its even better in the final version of 2012.

    Lucky you and many other said they had no problems, but many did have alot of problems. Three years to get it right across the board for all wheels. :confused:

    @Ian. Yep. Again…Three years. :thumbsdown:

    Enjoy if you like it, and have no problems. I guess :confused:

  13. Andrew Ford says:


    Gnu UK

    Good review Tom, thanks for doing it. :)

    Bullet point 1 under "The Ugly", is such a disappointment, though not a surprise after my experience with the demo.

    Year 3, save bug …… :thumbsdown:

    so what happens? every now and again it fails to save and you have to race again? i have f1 2011 for xbox but now i’m debating whether to get f1 2012 for xbox or pc. graphics seem better on pc but not sure now if there are lots of bugs for pc or not

  14. Brilliant review Tom enjoyed reading it, was worth the wait.

  15. Soupewonton says:

    I don’t understand why Racedepartment, racedepartment or GTplanet always compare the F1 series of codies to the hardcore sim game… It will never be the intention from Codemasters (according to Steve Hood interview) to develop a game like this. It’s made for softcore gamers. So why even bother to put comparasion when it was clear from the beginning that it was not made for the hardcore sim racer?

    Anyway it’s a good review despite the conclusion about rFactor2.

  16. Tom Endres says:


    Soupewonton

    I don’t understand why Racedepartment, racedepartment or GTplanet always compare the F1 series of codies to the hardcore sim game… It will never be the intention from Codemasters (according to Steve Hood interview) to develop a game like this. It’s made for softcore gamers. So why even bother to put comparasion when it was clear from the beginning that it was not made for the hardcore sim racer?

    Anyway it’s a good review despite the conclusion about rFactor2.

    Uhm…thanks? But I said one should not compare it to rFactor2. I’m playing rFactor2 as well (and I love it) but those games are different – and that’s ok. :)

    Roy Sutton

    @ Tom
    thanks bud, i hope the twitchness is not so bad in the version you played (compared to the demo) and that its even better in the final version of 2012.

    I’ve put some laps in and getting around Monza is a whole different ball game. Understeering all over the place, the demo is nothing like the version I played I’d say. :)

  17. Carlos Luna says:

    Does the save corruption only happen to certain consoles? I’ve played 2010 and 2011 a lot and have never had this happen to me.

  18. mertol says:


    Soupewonton

    I don’t understand why Racedepartment, racedepartment or GTplanet always compare the F1 series of codies to the hardcore sim game… It will never be the intention from Codemasters (according to Steve Hood interview) to develop a game like this. It’s made for softcore gamers. So why even bother to put comparasion when it was clear from the beginning that it was not made for the hardcore sim racer?

    Anyway it’s a good review despite the conclusion about rFactor2.

    Because it is natural for a f1 title to be sim. For arcade you need flying space cars, cartoon characters driving carts and that sort of stuff.

  19. Roy Sutton says:


    Tom Endres
    Soupewonton

    I don’t understand why Racedepartment, racedepartment or GTplanet always compare the F1 series of codies to the hardcore sim game… It will never be the intention from Codemasters (according to Steve Hood interview) to develop a game like this. It’s made for softcore gamers. So why even bother to put comparasion when it was clear from the beginning that it was not made for the hardcore sim racer?

    Anyway it’s a good review despite the conclusion about rFactor2.

    Uhm…thanks? But I said one should not compare it to rFactor2. I’m playing rFactor2 as well (and I love it) but those games are different – and that’s ok. :)

    Roy Sutton

    @ Tom
    thanks bud, i hope the twitchness is not so bad in the version you played (compared to the demo) and that its even better in the final version of 2012.

    I’ve put some laps in and getting around Monza is a whole different ball game. Understeering all over the place, the demo is nothing like the version I played I’d say. :)

    Thanks for testing that out Tom :thumbsup: , at least the steering is a big improvement on the demo. That was the only thing i was hopping would be different, and you say its very different. :cool:

  20. Nice Review.

    My Review it was:

    Download the Game – Push the Play button – Open the Game – Play Season Challenge – In the First Corner the AI hit me from behind and black flag to me – Exit the Game – Uninstall the Game.

    Actual spend time more or less 10-15 minutes.

    Hardcore Sim FTW :D

  21. azwris says:

    I have no doubts that F1 2012 is a great game. But, dropping support for Windows XP made me very sad. :sick:

  22. Tom Endres says:


    azwris

    I have no doubts that F1 2012 is a great game. But, dropping support for Windows XP made me very sad. :sick:

    Not even Microsoft themselves are supporting XP anymore. Don’t get me wrong but you didn’t wonder why games didn’t support DOS anymore in 2001, did you? ;)

  23. azwris says:

    This is not true. I’m still getting official updates from Microsoft Tom. All we need is a patch! Yes, yes, yesss please!!! :cry:

  24. Tom Endres says:


    azwris

    This is not true. I’m still getting official updates from Microsoft Tom. All we need is a patch! Yes, yes, yesss please!!! :cry:

    If you’re using SP3 and / or the 64 bit version, yes – mainstream support (32 bit and / or SP2) has been discontinued in 2009 / 2010 (can’t remember the exact date), tho. You’re right tho, there’s minimal support for XP left. :)

    Just out of curiosity: why don’t you upgrade to Vista / 7 / 8? 7 isn’t half-bad and it’s the first Windows that I have actually bought (aka it didn’t come with an HDD, laptop etc.). :)

  25. azwris says:


    Tom Endres

    If you’re using SP3 and / or the 64 bit version, yes – mainstream support (32 bit and / or SP2) has been discontinued in 2009 / 2010 (can’t remember the exact date), tho. You’re right tho, there’s minimal support for XP left. :)

    Just out of curiosity: why don’t you upgrade to Vista / 7 / 8? 7 isn’t half-bad and it’s the first Windows that I have actually bought (aka it didn’t come with an HDD, laptop etc.). :)

    I just can’t. I’m using ASRock AM2NF3-VSTA motherboard. It doesn’t support Windows Vista or 7 with an ATI card(agp). It’s a well known issue by now. Unfortunately I learned about that issue after the purchase of my mobo. Grrr….:mad:

    I’m not against new Windows. I’m running Windows 8 on another partition and I like them very much but to do this I need to disable my multi-core processor down to one. This is the only solution to get this hardware combo work.

    Anyways, thank you very much for you interest Tom.:)

  26. MARSALA says:

    Love the review,,,
    F1 2011 we were able to choose tyres before pitting.
    How do we choose Tyres before pitting for F1 2012?

  27. Tom Endres says:


    MARSALA

    Love the review,,,
    F1 2011 we were able to choose tyres before pitting.
    How do we choose Tyres before pitting for F1 2012?

    The same way. :)

  28. ptroinks says:

    Oh! My! God! I just can’t understand it! How difficult is it to make saved games work? The ability to save games has been here for (literally) ages. What’s so special about the F1 The Game series that makes it impossible for CM to prevent saved games from corrupting?

  29. Tom Endres says:

    Update 20/09/2012

    The following issues / changes are still active in the release version:

    • Free Practice 2 & 3 have been removed. Players are limited to a single, 60 minute, practice session.
    • Tyre wear doesn’t scale, tyres will always last as if you’d run a 100% race.
    • Buttons are bound twice, preventing you from using in-game functions. I.e. unable to open driver statistics because the same button is bound to going back to the last menu.
    • Some players can’t use a resolution greater than 800×600.

  30. Imagio says:

    What about handling and physics, will someone talk about that, car is behaving like it is on rails, you can’t spin it no matter what you do, 2011 was improvement, but this is far worst than even 2010. Game is so arcade that they completely ruined joy of driving

  31. Tom Endres says:


    Imagio

    What about handling and physics, will someone talk about that, car is behaving like it is on rails, you can’t spin it no matter what you do, 2011 was improvement, but this is far worst than even 2010. Game is so arcade that they completely ruined joy of driving

    You can spin your car easily if you’re not using any driving aids and an aggressive setup. If you’re using a wet setup in the dry you can hardly spin your car tho, that’s right. :)

  32. Gerardo Abal says:

    Hi, I’m thinking of buying me a wheel, but i’m kinda noob, so could anybody recommend me a good one for this game? i bought a logitch one last year (50 dollars, so yeah), it turned ot the pedals acted like buttons, no regulation of power input. Anyway, any help would be much appriciated.

  33. Tom Endres says:


    Gerald_f1

    Hi, I’m thinking of buying me a wheel, but i’m kinda noob, so could anybody recommend me a good one for this game? i bought a logitch one last year (50 dollars, so yeah), it turned ot the pedals acted like buttons, no regulation of power input. Anyway, any help would be much appriciated.

    Best wheels, according to Tom:

    Up to 150$: Logitech Driving Force GT (100$)
    Up to 300$: Logitech G27 (200$)
    Up to 600$: Thrustmaster T500 RS + F1 rim
    Up to 1200$: Fanatec CSW + BMW rim + F1 rim

    :D

    I’m using a T500 RS + F1 rim and love it.

  34. Very nice review. Thanks Tom, haven’t watched all the videos, just the reading. Gonna watch them later.
    I started playing today, IMO Codemasters made a good job now, i was complaining a lot about F1 2011, but for F1 2012 no. Looks much better now.
    Just played 2 races (carrer), haven’t noticed any bugs until now, except for an unfare penalty lol.
    Im not 100% sure, but i can do very fast downshifting, as long as i apply a good amount of pressure when im breaking, i can downshift very fast, maybe not so fast like Kubica, but fast.
    Maybe tomorrow i’ll try to find a solution for the G27, try to use a program to map just one button to change brake front and rear and the fuel, maybe its possible? Xpadder maybe?

    What i have noticed so far…

    Good:
    All the ones Tom said…
    Sound – Yeah, first of all, much better now.
    Parc fermé – Finally!
    Graphics – One thing that is very nice now is the sun glare.
    Physics – Maybe just me, maybe im crazy, but for me looks like its much better now, grip seems more realistic now. The only thing thats weird is the traction, i don’t use TC (G27), and looks like its harder to spin the car now, theres too much understeer. Even going from N to 1 to make a 180 rotation is much harder, but then again, thats what i noticed today, maybe it was just a first impression. One thing that is really different about physics its the throttle on turns, you could apply it much early in 2011, now if you do it you may get out of track.
    Interface – Much better, the menus and screens are much better.
    Loading times – They appear to be faster now, but i can’t say it for sure since my F1 2011 is heavly modded with HD textures and my F1 2012 its not modded.
    Kers – Like Tom said, its like a rocket now.
    AI – I think its better, at least looks like the ai is more agressive and they try to get some positions, but… for the race start still bad, for the 2 races i played today the race start was like in 2011, first turn and almost all ai cars were on the race line, just some cars side by side, but just some pairs, nothing like 3 guys trying to get the same position or so.
    Fuel changes for the race – I was really waiting to be able to do it and now we can.

    Bad:

    All the ones Tom said…
    Penalty system: Looks better but still bad, you can still see a stupid AI going in front of you very slow (Practice or Qualy) and then you hit the guy and get a penalty, worst than this… Massa hit my rear wheel on turn 1 on Malasya and we both got out of track then…. penalty for me :(

    Practice: WTF? Selected long weekend – full Q, and yet no 3 practice sessions. Just one :( . But, a good thing is that you can practice just one session and still do Q1, Q2 and Q3.

    Cameras/Replay – Still like 2010 and 11. No head movement and same replay system, no interface like real races and you can see just your car…again.

    Force Feedback – Seems really weak, the effects are better now, when you’re using kerbs, but the wheel weight on 100% still doens’t look nice, but again, just played 2 races, maybe after some more testing…

    Thats what i found racing today, i hope i don’t see more things to add in the bad section lol. I didn’t had the save problem today, i hope they try to solve this, 3 games, same error, shame on CM, also i need to confirm but i ‘guess’ the R&D bug is on the game again.

    Sorry about the english :redface:

  35. Antony Snook says:

    I have posted it before and will again this game is crap. Run Race o7 on steam with the RR1 model that resembles a F1 car. You have a feast of track’s from the Touring series and others so you can generate a season on trak’s like Nurbergring and Zolder


  36. Antony Snook

    I have posted it before and will again this game is crap. Run Race o7 on steam with the RR1 model that resembles a F1 car. You have a feast of track’s from the Touring series and others so you can generate a season on trak’s like Nurbergring and Zolder

    You say it’s crap. I say that I’m having a lot of fun while playing it ;) I said it earlier already, F1 series from Codemasters is a nice hybrid of arcade and sim. It has bugs, but I still like to play it. Also, why can’t we play both games? I have Race07 as well as F1 2012 and I think that it’s pretty good combination :)

 
 

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