Andretti F1

[jgf]

Well, Michael Andretti shot himself in the foot in his brief tenure in F1. Virtually everyone questioned his commitment to the project since instead of moving to Europe for the season he stayed in the US, flew over there every two weeks for the race weekend, then returned to the US. He is a good driver, one of the best (even Senna said so), but you still need the testing time to become intimate with the car. And McLaren certainly wasn't one of the best cars that year.
And all this exacerbated by his wife coming across as a pushy, extravagant, social climber.

Still, he managed to score points in his one partial season of F1, something many drivers never accomplished in years of F1.

But I think the experience took the edge off his driving. On his return to CART he was still good, still winning, but something was missing.

 

[Alexandr Balanesco]

Such a shame for F1. Such a shame for F1. There's still a possibility that Andretti will enter the championship earlier if Haas will decide to quit. F1 should be interested in more teams from USA.

 

[Eric Rowland]

Speaking to AP in Long Beach last weekend, Mario didn't hold back when asked about the sport's treatment of his son's proposed entry.

"I was offended, actually," he admitted. "I don't think we deserved that, to be honest with you.

"It's a big investment in the series, and you'd think they'd welcome that," he continued. "Even the value of the series is more valuable with eleven teams than ten, so I don't know. Tell us what is really wrong."

Andretti also found it particularly galling that effectively having rubbished General Motors as the team's engine partner, the sport then sought to encourage the American giant to enter without Andretti

"That's another offensive statement there," said Andretti. "We're the ones that worked it out, and GM said it over and over, 'Andretti or nothing', and then F1 still tried to take it.

"There's an undercurrent there that I don't understand, quite honestly," he admitted. "But if they want blood, well, I'm ready."

 

[BillyBobSenna]

Speaking to AP in Long Beach last weekend, Mario didn't hold back when asked about the sport's treatment of his son's proposed entry.

"I was offended, actually," he admitted. "I don't think we deserved that, to be honest with you.

"It's a big investment in the series, and you'd think they'd welcome that," he continued. "Even the value of the series is more valuable with eleven teams than ten, so I don't know. Tell us what is really wrong."

Andretti also found it particularly galling that effectively having rubbished General Motors as the team's engine partner, the sport then sought to encourage the American giant to enter without Andretti

"That's another offensive statement there," said Andretti. "We're the ones that worked it out, and GM said it over and over, 'Andretti or nothing', and then F1 still tried to take it.

"There's an undercurrent there that I don't understand, quite honestly," he admitted. "But if they want blood, well, I'm ready."

F1 does not care about and is totally out of touch with the average fan. For the leaders in F1, it's all about power and money.

 

[Pete Conway]

Such a shame for F1. Such a shame for F1. There's still a possibility that Andretti will enter the championship earlier if Haas will decide to quit. F1 should be interested in more teams from USA.

There is no reason for Haas to quit, they're currently7th in the championship, and, the new points scenario 'if it were applied to the 2024' season they would be 6th, "so far, so good!"
And Andretti entering the F1 'Business' because of another dropping out would be a win for the money grabbers that's currently rejecting their entry bid, simply by removing the Andretti thorn in the side of presenting that ten teams are enough argument.
I personally am appalled by the greed that F1 represents now, with the complete double standards of arguing that diversity and new drivers and team members should be encouraged yet ensuring there is absolutely nowhere for them to go.
If the whole shebang were to be flushed down the drain I wouldn't sigh.

 

[Eric Rowland]

fascinating ... I giggled at Kenny a few times ...

 

[Eric Rowland]

A dozen members of the US Congress have written to Formula One asking why Andretti has been refused entry to the sport.

"Previously the FIA Launched and led a comprehensive application process with the purpose of allowing one or more prospective teams to join Formula 1 racing series. Andretti Global, with its partner GM, submitted an application, and after receiving four applications, the FIA approved Andretti Global.

"Under what authority does FOM proceed to reject admission of Andretti Global? What is the rationale for FOM's rejection, especially with respect to Andretti Global and its partner GM potentially being the first American-owned and America-built race team?

"The Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890 outlaws unreasonable restraints on market competition to produce the best outcome for the American consumer," it continues. "How does FOM's denial of Andretti Global and GM, American-owned companies, square with Sherman Act requirements, since the decision will benefit incumbent European racing teams and their foreign automobile manufacturing affiliates?

"We understand that GM intends to re-introduce its Cadillac brand into the European market, which would support thousands of good-paying American automotive jobs, especially with Formula 1's worldwide audience and its halo effect on its teams and sponsors.

"How much did GM's and Andretti's entrance into racing competition taking a portion of the racing market share and GM's entry into the European market taking market share each play into the decision to deny admission to the Andretti Global team, given the public outcry of incumbent Formula 1 teams against a new American competitor?

"We continue to exercise oversight on this matter," the letter concluded, "and with the appropriate Federal regulators, to ensure that any potential violations of U.S. anticompetition law are expeditiously investigated and pursued."

 

[jgf]

The Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890

Is a US law, not binding on any foreign corporation. (And in reality seldom binding on US business, where is any competition for Microsoft?)

 

[Terry Rock]

Much as I would like to see an Andretti F1 entry, this whole Congress faux outrage nonsense is just that....nonsense.
What next...insisting every company who wants to do business here must open itself to American ownership?

 

[jgf]

.insisting every company who wants to do business here must open itself to American ownership?

Lol, ummm....Tictoc?

 

[Eric Rowland]

F1 hopefuls Andretti Cadillac have announced the recruitment of F1's chief technical officer, Pat Symonds.

"We are pleased to announce that British motor racing technical expert Pat Symonds will join the Andretti Cadillac team in pursuit of entering the FIA Formula One World Championship," said the team in a brief statement.

"Symonds, who most recently served as Chief Technical Officer for Formula One, will officially join the team at the new Silverstone base of operations on completion of his gardening leave at Formula One Management."

 

[Antony Snook]

Because the US business model is to buy out the competition rather than build a better product (how many competitors does Micro$oft have?). If the competition is in another country they run crying to congress to impose trade embargoes. For years most US cars were viewed by the rest of the world as "retro-tech" gas hogs with poor quality control; and the huge land barges favored by US drivers were a poor fit in most European and Asian cities.

So a US manufacturer would have to make "European" cars to succeed in the market there. (https://www.cardebater.com/why-dont-europeans-drive-pickup-trucks/)

But for "chicken and egg" I refer to F1 in the US. It will not gain more interest here unless there is US involvement but US companies are reticent to get involved when there is so little interest.

F1 or Grandprix racing as it was known back in the 50's and 60's came first. The problem was Indianapolis was a exhibition event. Most Europeans would not do it, you had to build the chassis direnent on ovals becuse of left turns and you have to take team over to America. So the Europeans would not go there. Jim Clark is the only one who did it and he was good and had money to do it. The other drivers where Americans or from North or south American countries, Local racers would come in to fill the grid. At the end of the day if you won Indy you had a * or symbol as it did not give championship points. Becuse the Eropeans would not race there. So America had these Oval tracks all over and broke away into INDY CAR. A clone of F1 raced localy. Some here in the Americas think it is better but i have not liked it myself. I prefer F1 as INDY CAR is Spec Racing and that means all the cars have to carry defined parts. People say this makes better racing and a more level playing feild, but you will notice the top drivers are the same names. Not as dominant as F1 with a team abouve the others evrey event. And i find it makes it dull as teams cant be creative and invative. I like NASCAR CUP that is spec in a way as there are 3 chassis Ford, Chevorlet, Toyota but its not at F1 level. In F1 Each F1 car looks the same at a distance, But close up it is enginereing by team and Airodynamics that makes the car run well. The driver is a small part of the equation yet they get all the credit. I think F1 should do more to primote the team ie pit crew strategists and even the people at the factory. Like a mouvie there are so many people behind the scenes that all do there part to make the team work.